Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I agree. My only contention with that is that they appear to have only looked at the impact a strategy will have on the epidemic, not on the economy (and the subsequent impact it falling off a cliff would have on society). My impression was that Witty has been looking at things from a wide range of perspectives rather than purely from an immunology point of view.

It's hard to see how ICU capacity can be greatly increased really, as while you 'may' be able to procure more equipment, the staffing will be a huge issue. It's possible that people with prior experience in ICU could be called back and given refreshers, but equally it's possible/probable that sickness rates among staff will be higher than normal. It wouldn't surprise me 'that' much if it doesn't end up in nurses having two or more patients rather than the 1-to-1 that is normal in ICU, which is not ideal either, whether for the patients or the staff. I mean it's not like the NHS can recruit a bunch of people from overseas, you know?

I also recall my wife saying that most ICU nurses are fairly young, as the intensity of the job means it isn't often a career for a prolonged period of time, so it's not like there will be a large cohort of retirees to call upon.

This is just me chewing the fat, of course, so who knows how things will turn out. It'll be a tough 18 months however it unfolds though.
Yeah the staffing in ICU is going to be a huge issue sadly - just one of the many reasons we need to ensure those staff are protected with adequate masks etc and their workload managed to avoid burnout/collapse.

The testing, early isolation of pre-symptomatic cases and contact tracing are logistical/training issues that will probably get resolved earlier which will hopefully help with the suppression part.
 
I've been to tesco and morrisons today and the shelves are wiped out, loads of people scrambling to buy hand cleaners and anti-bacterial sprays when washing up liquid is like buying kryptonite against this virus, all you need is a couple of bottles of fairy, last you months.

I genuinely bought fairy liquid before and there was absolute shelves of it , no toilet roll mind which is of no impact or use but loads of fairy liquid . People are mental
 
Yeah the staffing in ICU is going to be a huge issue sadly - just one of the many reasons we need to ensure those staff are protected with adequate masks etc and their workload managed to avoid burnout/collapse.

The testing, early isolation of pre-symptomatic and contact tracing are logistical/training issues that will probably get resolved earlier which will hopefully help with the suppression part.

The sad thing is, a lot of this is in our own hands, if we only act sensibly and don't expose the vulnerable to infection. Unfortunately it seems a large number of us are content to play silly sods.
 
The sad thing is, a lot of this is in our own hands, if we only act sensibly and don't expose the vulnerable to infection. Unfortunately it seems a large number of us are content to play silly sods.
Thing is, particularly here in the US, doubt that is a small % of population. Obviously age is the primary issue but hypertension, cardiovascular disease, chronic respiratory disease, diabetes and cancer are all apparently risk factors - 10% of the US population have diabetes alone.
 
I’ve noticed kitchen roll is usually available, just chop it in half to create bog roll surely?

Exactly . I genuinely needed toilet roll the other day , you know because I was running out and wanted to wipe my arse and there was none in two shops but lots of tissues (that might be useful if you’re a panicky bulk buyer ) and kitchen roll . I honestly don’t get it
 
Watching this Westminster committee asking Patrick Valllance questions is actually so frustrating.

One of the MPs just asked should the over 70s go out for Sunday lunch with all the family. The answer was unsurprisingly no.

The follow up question was could they do group exercise and keep playing golf!!

Erm..... WHAT???
I was thinking what a random question to ask. Numptys.
 
Genuinely confused about the testing procedure. I called this morning to tell them that the symptoms persist, so I had a swab and was told to wait for results. Shouldn't there be clearer guidelines for what to do in the meantime?
 
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