Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Haven't had a drink in months and after today decided to have one and me mam (72) starts having a high temp 40 and breathing difficulties again. The last thing we want is to jump the gun and send her to hospital where (it seems) she will deffo catch it, but at the same time if she has it she will need to go to hozzy...,arrrrgggghhh

That's tough, best seek medical advice though ....any underlying conditions etc not necessarily Covid but even so plenty of other conditions are very serious too.
 
Hospital figures - 354 deaths were announced today, up 72 on yesterday and up 96 on last Saturday. 283 deaths were in English hospitals, up 65 on yesterday and up 75 on last week with 268 occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 271.71

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 413 deaths were announced today, up 58 on yesterday and up 87 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 333.29

For the 60 day cut off, 429 deaths were announced today, up 53 on yesterday and up 93 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average rises to 346.86
 
I'm not sure how reliable the Guardian is as a source but if this is true then it's horrific and this is just dementia alone. My granny has dementia and is in a nursing home near Birmingham and nobody was allowed to visit her obviously my Mother living in Ireland couldn't get over even after the visiting restrictions were lifted during the summer as she would have had to take 2 weeks unpaid leave from work to isolate when she got home but my uncle who lives a short walk from the nursing home wasn't allowed to visit. Granny has deteriorated alot due in some part to the isolation as dementia patients rely on family visits from familiar faces to keep them going.

Sadly mate, although the act of lockdown itself will have negative effects on people living with dementia, it's very unlikely ( nigh on impossible ) for that to cause 10,000 extra deaths.

It will undoubtebly cause some, and there's no doubt about the huge negative effect caused by being apart from family, but it's far more likely that those extra deaths were primarily due to people dying with undiagnosed COVID at a time when testing was rarely carried out on care home residents.

Most people in the later stages of dementia are frail and have suppressed immune systems and so are vulnerable to circulatory issues, respiratory problems and general viral infections, which is pretty much a perfect storm for COVID to affect.

If the excess deaths had mainly been caused by isolation then you'd expect to see the trend in excess dementia deaths continue, and the reality is that the opposite has happened, and less people than average are dying with dementia.

We need to do much better at making sure families and friends can keep in contact with those in care homes, because that loss of contact will definitely end up contributing to deaths, but I think that blaming that large excess in April on lockdown is just something that people ideologically opposed to lockdown either want to believe to support their argument, or worse, knowing it's not true, latch onto to use as emotional blackmail.
 

I'm not sure how reliable the Guardian is as a source but if this is true then it's horrific and this is just dementia alone. My granny has dementia and is in a nursing home near Birmingham and nobody was allowed to visit her obviously my Mother living in Ireland couldn't get over even after the visiting restrictions were lifted during the summer as she would have had to take 2 weeks unpaid leave from work to isolate when she got home but my uncle who lives a short walk from the nursing home wasn't allowed to visit. Granny has deteriorated alot due in some part to the isolation as dementia patients rely on family visits from familiar faces to keep them going.
The flip side to it also is that according to the same source a couple of months back , 25% of covid deaths have dementia as the underlying cause of death.

It's almost a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario there. Shut them away from the world and you have your story. Give them access to the world and you get the latter.

There is no easy answer to that.
 
Another nobhead parade:
FREEDOM...BREAK YOUR CHAINS....LEARN TO REBEL....


FFS, some people just cant do without a few pints of ale or a collagen injection for a whole month.


I've said it before - march them into an internment camp and keep them there. You'll see how long they think Covid19 is f.a. to be shutting down the hospitality sector for then. The utter sacks of excrement.
 
Haven't had a drink in months and after today decided to have one and me mam (72) starts having a high temp 40 and breathing difficulties again. The last thing we want is to jump the gun and send her to hospital where (it seems) she will deffo catch it, but at the same time if she has it she will need to go to hozzy...,arrrrgggghhh
Wishing her a very swift recovery mate x
 
FREEDOM...BREAK YOUR CHAINS....LEARN TO REBEL....


FFS, some people just cant do without a few pints of ale or a collagen injection for a whole month.


I've said it before - march them into an internment camp and keep them there. You'll see how long they think Covid19 is f.a. to be shutting down the hospitality sector for then. The utter sacks of excrement.
Tossers about yesterday.

 
Hospital figures - 194 deaths were announced today, 160 down on yesterday and up 6 on last Sunday. 122 deaths were in English hospitals, down 161 on yesterday and down 15 on last week with 118 occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 272.57

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 156 deaths were announced today, down 257 on yesterday and down 6 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 332.43

For the 60 day cut off, 160 deaths were announced today, down 269 on yesterday and down 5 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 346.14
 
Hospital figures - 194 deaths were announced today, 160 down on yesterday and up 6 on last Sunday. 122 deaths were in English hospitals, down 161 on yesterday and down 15 on last week with 118 occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 272.57

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 156 deaths were announced today, down 257 on yesterday and down 6 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 332.43

For the 60 day cut off, 160 deaths were announced today, down 269 on yesterday and down 5 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 346.14

This is getting wearily the same as the spring/summer.

But if the progression is the same, well, after 4 weeks of lock down lite, hopefully we will all be a bit better behaved later in December.
 
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