Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ToffeeTim]

Opening gyms. Have you ever heard such a nunb nuts decision? Record infection rate, highest death toll since June and they allow these places where virus is tramsmitted to re-open.

So, just to recap - the "Tier 3" hard lock down for Very High Risk areas allows pubs to remain open if they serve food, restaurants to stay open, gyms to stay open, retail to stay open, schools to stay open, universities to stay open. So WTF restrictions are in place in reality to stop this runaway virus again? Casinos and leisure centres closed. That's it?

What a 'kin joke these clueless clowns are.

The only serious politicians are to be found in the devolved governments in Scotland, Wales and the north of Ireland.

You obviously don't pay much attention to ineptitude of the Stormont assembly!

 

[davek]

You obviously don't pay much attention to ineptitude of the Stormont assembly!

Took more action against this virus anyway.

 

[zzr45]

Opening gyms. Have you ever heard such a nunb nuts decision? Record infection rate, highest death toll since June and they allow these places where virus is tramsmitted to re-open.

So, just to recap - the "Tier 3" hard lock down for Very High Risk areas allows pubs to remain open if they serve food, restaurants to stay open, gyms to stay open, retail to stay open, schools to stay open, universities to stay open. So WTF restrictions are in place in reality to stop this runaway virus again? Casinos and leisure centres closed. That's it?

What a 'kin joke these clueless clowns are.

The only serious politicians are to be found in the devolved governments in Scotland, Wales and the north of Ireland.

Why haven’t they shut care homes yet? Time for families to start looking after their own. Get them shut. Anyone who has no family will soon snap out of their put on feebleness.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Royal completely different then , we only started wearing masks ourselves about 4 weeks ago and now this week it's everyone.

Interesting if they have different policies and one is being said to be filling up fast.

The royal could lose a third of its staff once testing them.

There is a national diktat around face coverings in hospitals. Now expectation on face coverings in non clinical settings.

Not consistently applied yet it would seem and also a bit problematic in shared buildings with multiple agencies (since who are required to wear masks and others who aren't).

 

[zzr45]

There is a national diktat around face coverings in hospitals. Now expectation on face coverings in non clinical settings.

Not consistently applied yet it would seem and also a bit problematic in shared buildings with multiple agencies (since who are required to wear masks and others who aren't).

So the whole ‘protect the NHS’ thing is a load of bollocks because they can’t be arsed protecting themselves? Wonderful. Managers should be taken outside and shot.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There is a national diktat around face coverings in hospitals. Now expectation on face coverings in non clinical settings.

Not consistently applied yet it would seem and also a bit problematic in shared buildings with multiple agencies (since who are required to wear masks and others who aren't).

As an aside, is there any meat to the idea that as temperatures cool, the droplets that carry COVID are more likely to turn into aerosols, which as aerosols travel much further than droplets would make 2m social distancing somewhat redundant (not to mention limit the effectiveness of masks)?

 

[bigjonny]

There is a national diktat around face coverings in hospitals. Now expectation on face coverings in non clinical settings.

Not consistently applied yet it would seem and also a bit problematic in shared buildings with multiple agencies (since who are required to wear masks and others who aren't).

My wife works in The Royal and has worn a mask at all times for months (A&E), my mate works in an office there and didn’t have to wear one in the office, they are a bubble apparently, but did as soon as he stepped out of it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So the whole ‘protect the NHS’ thing is a load of bollocks because they can’t be arsed protecting themselves? Wonderful. Managers should be taken outside and shot.

Sorry what?

 

[Jebus_lives]

My wife works in The Royal and has worn a mask at all times for months (A&E), my mate works in an office there and didn’t have to wear one in the office, they are a bubble apparently, but did as soon as he stepped out of it.

Effectively mandatory now. Some inconsistency around wearing at desks but effectively it's become a thing to wear if you are in a hospital setying. - clinical or not

 

[Nymzee]

There is good reason to go after the Government, I can think of a few examples, cant you?

You're not understanding the point I'm making whatsoever.

 

[Agent Blue]

The government's secretive Covid contracts are heaping misery on Britain | George Monbiot

Bypassing the NHS and handing crucial services to corporate executives has led to the catastrophic failure of test and trace, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

 

[Jebus_lives]

As an aside, is there any meat to the idea that as temperatures cool, the droplets that carry COVID are more likely to turn into aerosols, which as aerosols travel much further than droplets would make 2m social distancing somewhat redundant (not to mention limit the effectiveness of masks)?

I'm not sure I've seen firm evidence of that, seems to be some inconsistency in confirming if that's the case - although I think by and large it's accepted as correct.

There is greater worry that as temperature drops, the likelihood of generic cough, sneezing, wheezing increases which will have a impact on growth. Similarly, people are habitual and driven by convenience. If it's cold outside and you have a heater, people (ffs) will gather round the heater.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm not sure I've seen firm evidence of that, seems to be some inconsistency in confirming if that's the case - although I think by and large it's accepted as correct.

There is greater worry that as temperature drops, the likelihood of generic cough, sneezing, wheezing increases which will have a impact on growth. Similarly, people are habitual and driven by convenience. If it's cold outside and you have a heater, Pete will gather round the heater.

I would chuckle if he ever made it into an official statement. The reason I ask is I was reading an article from a Czech scientist this morning who was talking about this. Wasn't sure quite how valid it was or how this changes the remedial measures that have become somewhat ingrained over the year. He also spoke about the reduced efficacy of masks once they became damp, which might be more likely during colder weather. Obviously that's the standard guidance, that masks should be changed if/when they get damp, but I'm not sure 'that' many people know that.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

The North Remembers

Chaos and fury as Boris Johnson forces curbs on Greater Manchester

Andy Burnham warns of real hardship after bitter standoff over support package

www.theguardian.com

The north remembers nothing. Northerners voted for this mess on the promise of less foreigners and because Jeremy Corbyn was a bad man, conveniently forgetting phrases such as ‘managed decline’

 

[Jebus_lives]

I would chuckle if he ever made it into an official statement. The reason I ask is I was reading an article from a Czech scientist this morning who was talking about this. Wasn't sure quite how valid it was or how this changes the remedial measures that have become somewhat ingrained over the year. He also spoke about the reduced efficacy of masks once they became damp, which might be more likely during colder weather. Obviously that's the standard guidance, that masks should be changed if/when they get damp, but I'm not sure 'that' many people know that.

Aside from the scientific analysis. My personal opinion, albeit one backed by some anecdotal information and some case study experience, is that the cloth masks give a bit of a false sense of security to people. People wear them poorly, they think it provides complete protection, they don't wash them and they favour wearing a mask over hand washing and distancing. The later are more effective at managing outbreaks of done appropriately*

*I'm not saying don't wear face masks, just wear them applied with other mitigation as well.