I'm not aware of that. But I do seem to recall the debate shifting about China, right about the time that the USA and UK total infections and death rate started to surpass China's.
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Well no, they of course went strict fast, but being the epicentre of a pandemic and suddenly just having barely any deaths shown each day very early on it just looked remarkably "massaged" shall we say to me. We all know what they're like over there for censoring people over there.
Generally gov.uk for the rules.
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Yeah pure coincidence - the China virus and all that.
Quick blame them for our domestic incompetence
ForeverBlue92
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The Chinese have played the West like a fiddle
Yes we do, which is why it's not particularly unremarkable that they imposed pretty draconian measures to limit the spread. Also, being the epicentre doesn't mean you will be any more greatly impacted.
Again, no stats (obviously) to back it up I just believe the figures coming out of China in March-May time were very undercooked. No prejudice there just personal opinion.
Like no other country in the world has a death graph like this lol
China COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
China Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
Sky in the mornings with kay burley is good for holding people to account and questioning their decisions.
5Live has consistently been the best place for information and debate in a non bias setting.
Avoid newspapers as they’re all coming from a place of bias in some way.
5Live has consistently been the best place for information and debate in a non bias setting.
Avoid newspapers as they’re all coming from a place of bias in some way.
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You leave the cheap goods alone, you horrible wokey lefty union communist type, the poor shareholder need the cheap labor it provides. Be gone be gone lefty loon Corbyn almond latte sipping type... Phwooooarrr Rule Britania guys and girls
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How quickly some people forget the early parts of this year. Because the virus is here now and this year is passing us by our focus now is simply on existing with the virus and holding on for a vaccine. Questions about its origins never seem to crop up anymore.
To the people who commend China’s handling of this virus, you do realise it goes hand in hand with the general authoritarian state of their society don’t you? I guess for some that is a society they would like to live in. Of course I’ve heard so often that isolating the vulnerable is impossible to do but it seems welding people into their homes is all part of an effective strategy. Instead of taking our sick to the hospitals and overwhelming them, surely this would be a better strategy? It would certainly help with the statistics anyway as you wouldn’t have to count them as real people.
Almost universally the data by country was/is poor. China, by comparison to other countries, has a low rate per 100,000 but it's not unremarkably low and in comparison to it's neighbours it is comparably much worse. I'll caveat that by saying, as I've mentioned on here a number of times before, country by country comparison is apples and oranges because each country has its own methodology for response.
The data is similar when you look at deaths. Low against international comparison, but not unremarkably so and average against it's neighbours.
Again, I'm not sure data comparison in the way that is commonly reported is helpful because it looks at rate per entire population. If you consider that China effectively walled in Wuhan (urban population for Wuhan is around 8.5m/population 1.4b) it makes it even more unremarkable. If you consider the population density of other large cities (London 9m/65*m roughly 14%) and the flow in and out it's not unlikely that China hasn't seen a huge rate.
*Sorry @Kenshin I know I haven't counted everyone but I'm using doing the best I can.
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Why is there over 1,400 Covid deaths on the NHS website where the person who died never tested positive?
But there death certificate has Covid-19?
'Deaths where a positive test result for COVID-19 was not received but COVID-19 is mentioned on their death certificate as also covered, but are reported separately'.
But there death certificate has Covid-19?
'Deaths where a positive test result for COVID-19 was not received but COVID-19 is mentioned on their death certificate as also covered, but are reported separately'.
I was referring more to the curve of the data not the actual figures themselves. Plateaued in April and hasn’t changed since... quite remarkable a place where this thing originated from to not seemingly have any ripple effects months down the line in deaths.
Kenshin
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What's embarrassing is trying to have a dig at a poster and failing.
Especially given out the two of us, I'm not the one repeating those buzzwords......
What's the difference between sky news and the BBC news , honestly?
Or is it anywhere except the one I mentioned?
So sky lie about the news now? Have I missed something?
There have been spikes, but they have an incredibly rigorous testing regime, quarantine rules and high adherence among the population to the public health measures.
There's some useful information here about control measures and how the surveillance is used to limit spread. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420304864
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