Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

So local councils in tier 3 have power to take more decisions on top of the ones announced today? Wonder what that will mean

Nice black uniform with red trim...

 

[Blues Harp]

One of the journalists, think it was the Sky woman, did ask the question, but Boris just ignored that part and didn't go back to her. She said later that she tried to bring it up again but had been muted by that stage. lol

I think the answer to that question is that Boris wants to bring in the regulations at many more area's but knows he can't do so without the full co-operation of the local councils. So it would appear that at the moment Steve Rotherham is the only one co-operating with him

But is Rotherham co-operating? Bozo says yes but I have heard that it was not agreed.
Guess who is lying.

 

[Kenshin]

Really need to use the time wisely that these measures will provide. It's no good locking down for a month, then reopening only to shut down again in 2 months time.

Exactly. Business need long term stability even in restricted measures so they can have a steady income coming in.

 

[tsubaki]

But is Rotherham co-operating? Bozo says yes but I have heard that it was not agreed.
Guess who is lying.

Rotheram says there was no discussion over the risk level, all they talked about was the finances

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Could they really not just have been told (the unis I'm on about here) not to open until, say, Spring.

Have it all as eLearning (like it is anyway). Take away the costs from the students and if the government needs to cover some, then fine so be it. But it was surely worth the trade off from 1000s of students spreading it around the country to just then be locked in halls anyway.

The government offered scant help. Essentially told universities to carry on as normal. So universities were essentially pushed to recruit students to pull in revenue, or possibly go under. It was a very real threat. My personal suspicion is that the govt do not want to issue an instruction to close universities, rather they want to place blame on universities. If universities move to online teaching or close and students make claims for reduced tuition fees, the govt then aren't liable. Frankly, they're facing an epic collapse of various institutions across a number of sectors or a costly bill. They can't countenance either, so we have this muddled halfway house mush mash of measures.

An unenviable position, but they are making a pigs ear of it.

 

[Nymzee]

Rotheram says there was no discussion over the risk level, all they talked about was the finances

I fail to believe he didn't ask the question at the COBRA meeting or beforehand haha.

 

[the sniderman]

I’ve just returned from Crete and now have to quarantine for 14 days, even though Crete has a rate of Covid cases of about 5% of where I live, Conwy county, which is in lockdown measures. But people from Liverpool can still holiday in Gwynedd and Anglesey? Yet according to the Welsh government, I’m more of a danger to the local population, hence the quarantine

hello buddy this seems like u resent the people from liverpool as they are scabby super spreaders. would u like to expand on why u hate them please.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

world class

test and trace

system

And all over by Christmas, phwoar ya doomsters!

 

[davek]

Rotheram says there was no discussion over the risk level, all they talked about was the finances

Basically, he and Anderson have intervened in this fait accompli - as he presents it as - by getting 'concessions' from government in terms of leaving restaurants open and allowing ale houses to continue to trade if they serve a bit of food....and by doing that it'll mean that these 'restrictions' will have almost zero effect on bringing down the rate of infection in the region....which was supposed to be their priority in the first place....in fact, it'll increase the rate of infection.

So we now have it confirmed today that the "people" they've been working for has been the local business community not the vast majority of the rest of us. It just underlines that local government has become a cess pit...commodified, another arm of the market led by a political class elected to do the bidding of smaller scale enterprises.

We've come a long way from the LP leading the way with municipal socialism.

 

[davek]

But is Rotherham co-operating? Bozo says yes but I have heard that it was not agreed.
Guess who is lying.

I think Rotheram and Anderson are both Johnson's type of local leaders: willing to fight the case for small scale businesses and not seeing increased furlough payments as a deal breaker.

No wonder the clown name-checked the former MP for Liverpool FC twice.

 

[Haydn]

Really need to use the time wisely that these measures will provide. It's no good locking down for a month, then reopening only to shut down again in 2 months time.

Unfortunately those making the decisions are completely unencumbered by competence. How can a strategy unheard of in living memory requiring national lockdown, possibly be followed by a mandate to return to work to save Pret and Costa or be sacked. Go to the pub and have subsidised scampi and chips. Kids get to uni and mix with everyone else in your digs. A comedy test and trace system. It’s back again everybody. Who could possibly have guessed ?

 

[BlueToff]

Unfortunately those making the decisions are completely unencumbered by competence. How can a strategy unheard of in living memory requiring national lockdown, possibly be followed by a mandate to return to work to save Pret and Costa or be sacked. Go to the pub and have subsidised scampi and chips. Kids get to uni and mix with everyone else in your digs. A comedy test and trace system. It’s back again everybody. Who could possibly have guessed ?

Thing is, that's all true, but they also always expected a second wave to hit in November time. Worldwide.

It should dissipate by spring, there should be enough immunity in the population by then for us to be able to come out of it, especially with warmer weather.

However, the fact they had six months to at least get something better in place for getting us through the second wave, and they've come up with F all other than destroying more lives than this virus ever would, is a disgrace.

They're useless. The world's governments are, and unfortunately we're near the top.

Then, throw in stuff like BJ's speech last week mentioning 'digital ID' and the massive emphasis on battling climate change (finally), and it really does start to become much more about control, especially when you factor in all the 'reboot, rethink, retrain - go cyber' stuff. Said it all along, but the main thing to look out for with this is who benefits, because the tech companies are the ones reaping the reward at the minute.

Not to say that it isn't here, and it is serious. It 100% is. It's just definitely being used as a mechanism to completely shift the world in the space of 12 months. FFS, they've got self-scan machines in ASDA now that recognise your face even if you're wearing a mask.

 

[davek]

Really need to use the time wisely that these measures will provide. It's no good locking down for a month, then reopening only to shut down again in 2 months time.

I honestly dont see what time this will buy. It's the appearance of a lockdown where a real one should be. There's nothing to it - again. Even the gormless lap dog Starmer grew fangs and had to point that out today.

Pubs dont have to close if they have the gumption to get round the rules; restaurants dont even have any rules to contend with. WTF is closing a couple of hundred gyms and betting offices going to do in containing the runaway infection rate? Not that much I would think.

 

[evilwebby]

January is gonna be proper grim IMO

Christmas is gonna be grim as hell. People usually go back to see their families.. all that’s gonna be strongly discouraged. I can see all the Scrooge and Killjoy memes already.

 

[davmaher]

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