Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ToffeeTim]

That's exactly what happened, yes.

You could count on one hand the amount of people who'd actually bother in the slightest with the "rule of six" for Christmas, for example, as there's no logic for it. You had advisors showing false graphs to try and scare people. You're having rules applied one week for one area and ignored the following week for another.

Consistency and openness was key on this; the government failed miserably on both counts.

It was only a few weeks ago we were told to expect 50k cases by middle of this month, i.e. this week.

I get it's very very difficult to accurately predict these things going forward, and it's a near impossible job. But some of the projections have been so far off that people are just switching off now. They don't take the advice seriously. I have to say I am a growing sceptic too.

 

[BlueToff]

Retrain. Rethink. Why follow your dreams when you can be an android?

And don't question it, because there's a deadly virus.

Not at all saying there isn't a virus. And it's clearly deadly to more than enough people for it to be considered serious.

But they're using it as a mechanism to change the world and mould it in a way which is completely reliant on tech and AI.

Some of that will be positive - especially in the way of counter-acting climate change.

But it's pretty clear what's happening.

 

[BlueToff]

It was only a few weeks ago we were told to expect 50k cases by middle of this month, i.e. this week.

I get it's very very difficult to accurately predict these things going forward, and it's a near impossible job. But some of the projections have been so far off that people are just switching off now. They don't take the advice seriously. I have to say I am a growing sceptic too.

Their predictions from back in March still get me, them expecting the peak to be 12 weeks from then. It peaked in mid-April, ffs

 

[davek]

No there's actual figure/studies on it, just can't find it right now. It showed transmission rates across all settings.

By the way, that tweet you quoted - anyone who calls for gyms to remain open in the midst of a pandemic is an actual idiot. They should never have been re-opened - literally ground zero for viral transmission.

I know. But it leads to that sort of confusion - this time from local leaders who add to the confusion of national leaders.

 

[davek]

But all of this is just a short term solution to a long term problem, no idea what they are doing tbh. All this might bring numbers down in the hard hit areas but at the end of the day all it takes is for one person to have symptoms dormant in their body and as soon things open again, that person spreads and it flares up again.
Bozo needs to step off and admit he has lost control of this and take that moron Hancock with him however i don't really see anyone ready to guide the country through these harsh times.

It'd be a hell of a lot easier to live through if we had clear messaging and a realistic plan to adhere to.

 

[COYBL25]

It was only a few weeks ago we were told to expect 50k cases by middle of this month, i.e. this week.

I get it's very very difficult to accurately predict these things going forward, and it's a near impossible job. But some of the projections have been so far off that people are just switching off now. They don't take the advice seriously. I have to say I am a growing sceptic too.

It started with the Cummings fiasco and since then the public trust and confidence in the government and its advisors, has just slowly eroded, to a point where it’s actually starting to turn into resentment and anger.

As @Tubey says it’s plain as day that they’ve lost control of things.

When Johnson goes on the telly now, all I can think of is that episode of Black Adder, where he sticks the spoons in his ears and shouts “ wibble, wibble, wibble “ over and over again.

 

[The binman chronicles]

This is the understandable reaction to the decision Anderson and Rotherham made to fight for the restaurants to stay open:



People are angry and confused enough withiut our local civc 'leaders' adding to the confusion.

Is that someone arguing against McDonald's and for gyms on health reason yet his twitter picture shows him necking a four pint jug?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Retrain. Rethink. Why follow your dreams when you can be an android?

And don't question it, because there's a deadly virus.

Not at all saying there isn't a virus. And it's clearly deadly to more than enough people for it to be considered serious.

But they're using it as a mechanism to change the world and mould it in a way which is completely reliant on tech and AI.

Some of that will be positive - especially in the way of counter-acting climate change.

But it's pretty clear what's happening.

Yes if only the masses woke up - you're seeing the Western free society pushed towards an Eastern system of work, education and little free time / social interaction.

As soon as I heard they were only planning on vaccinating the most vulnerable I knew what was on the cards - hospitals wont suddenly stop being overwhelmed with sick Covid patients requiring oxygen just because those most likely to die are vaccinated. This will be going on for many many years imo.

 

[Blues Harp]

Even without the initial mis management by the Tories, Cummingsgate blew any "strategy" out of the water. Herd immunity was always the Tories wish, as well as wasting billions of pounds on companies owned by their chums
They have set the old against young, working people against unemployed, North against South, science vs covid deniers, etc.
Job done says bozo with his 80 seat majority. We have all been taken for a ride by our so called "caring" government.
Wait until no deal Brexit hits us

 

[Blues Harp]

It started with the Cummings fiasco and since then the public trust and confidence in the government and its advisors, has just slowly eroded, to a point where it’s actually starting to turn into resentment and anger.

As @Tubey says it’s plain as day that they’ve lost control of things.

When Johnson goes on the telly now, all I can think of is that episode of Black Adder, where he sticks the spoons in his ears and shouts “ wibble, wibble, wibble “ over and over again.

This x10.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It started with the Cummings fiasco and since then the public trust and confidence in the government and its advisors, has just slowly eroded, to a point where it’s actually starting to turn into resentment and anger.

As @Tubey says it’s plain as day that they’ve lost control of things.

When Johnson goes on the telly now, all I can think of is that episode of Black Adder, where he sticks the spoons in his ears and shouts “ wibble, wibble, wibble “ over and over again.

Spot on.

 

[navidson]

I'm supposed to be staying in Wales for 4 nights starting tomorrow (A little break I booked 7 months ago)

How are they going to enforce any sort of travel restriction with me being away when the restrictions start?

 

[Brennan]

I'm supposed to be staying in Wales for 4 nights starting tomorrow (A little break I booked 7 months ago)

How are they going to enforce any sort of travel restriction with me being away when the restrictions start?

Is it a part of Wales under local restrictions ?

 

[navidson]

Is it a part of Wales under local restrictions ?

No it's Mid Wales - Powys

 

[BlueToff]

So somebody my mate (who works in a gym) works with has just tested positive over the weekend.

My friend has only just been told because he went into work and asked where this person was/why she wasn't in.

He sits on the same table etc as her and has done the same shifts for the past few weeks, so they've been in contact.

According to NHS Track and Trace, he doesn't have to self-isolate unless he gets symptoms. He also can't get a test, and has been told he has to carry on coming into work unless he's contacted by the app/text.

Absolutely ludicrous system.

Herd immunity is definitely needed to an extent, but if they're serious about slowing this down then he should be told to isolate/or able to get a test (the latter, really).

As it is he can't do either and can't not work.