Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Partner and I had our first Covid tests on Sunday as part of the ONS/Oxford survey. Couple of things to note:

- The guy doing the testing didn’t wear a mask
- He was tested four weeks ago when he started the job but hasn’t been tested since despite going round to as many as ten different residences per day testing people
- We’ve had no contact since to say whether we’re positive or negative. He did say to only expect quick contact if we’re positive, but that’s not exactly reassuring

And I’ve still not received my vouchers, although that’s not quite as concerning as the above lol
 
Of course, not sure how high it'll be like.
There was data from the end of August which put it at 48% of cases being spread in care homes. There's a very deliberate smokescreen being put up to protect that sector and hopefully, come the great enquiry into this the companies that are running the sector will be brought to heel.

With that said, the data shows that it's mainly rising among the younger population:


There's plenty of questions as to whether a return to university was all that sensible as most are engaged in remote learning anyway and how many young kids that are testing positive are actually spreading the disease (again there's data that basically echoes Paretos Law that 20% of people are responsible for 80% of the spread.) This second wave isn't as severe as it first looks.
 
"Infection rates have got nothing to do with pubs and restaurants, Dave. WTF are you going on about them for? They're safe as houses. People sitting at tables and being disciplined and that. Find another target will you, you broken record. Anyway, it's households that are to blame."


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So......

Why is it illegal for the second lowest form of covid exposure and perfectly legal for the rest? In groups of 6 as well?

This is why they can't control anything. Like I have said all along, more likely to catch it elsewhere outdoors than in someone's house.

It's just stupid now.
 
So......

Why is it illegal for the second lowest form of covid exposure and perfectly legal for the rest? In groups of 6 as well?

This is why they can't control anything. Like I have said all along, more likely to catch it elsewhere outdoors than in someone's house.

It's just stupid now.
That's plain wrong. Everyrhing we know points to outdoor activity being low risk.
 
Waiting until next week to shut places down. There's no hurry like. It's not like at the current rate tens of thousands of people will become infected in the interim or hundreds lose their lives.

Just like back in March: this government have sleep walked us into carnage...and all becuase they dont have the balls to stand up to their own grasping backbenchers who are there to lobby for the business interests they get their bungs off.

I dont know about a special place in hell for that lot, but there should be a special place at the Hague.

I'd string the lot of them up and pull the lever in a heartbeat.

Every day they're killing people now. Every day of inaction more families are robbed of loved ones.
 
London is likely low because the number of infections in the capital was massive in the first outbreak. If new transmissions were as high as 100,000 per day with most of this in London it stands to reason that there is a certain level of immunity in the population slowing spread this time. I certainly don’t think it’s because people in London aren’t going out to pubs and restaurants.

Barnet hospital is the ‘dirty’ hospital in Hertfordshire which is being used to send patients with Covid, and it’s currently half empty with extra equipment going unused. Thankfully. Hertfordshire was one of the epicentres of the virus at the start of the outbreak.

Which gives you hope that once you've had it even though you may still get it again it may only be mild/no symptoms which is maybe why less people will be bothering to get tested down south / less numbers.
 
"Infection rates have got nothing to do with pubs and restaurants, Dave. WTF are you going on about them for? They're safe as houses. People sitting at tables and being disciplined and that. Find another target will you, you broken record. Anyway, it's households that are to blame."


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Appears to be a gigantic couple of sections completely missing from that graph mate
 
I would say that Liverpool is policing itself a bit more strictly now, more and more card only (which requires a bit of patience if behind some poor old guy in the queue), far more places behind mask compulsory and having someone at the door to remind the selfish that they aren't the only people on the planet.

*face palms*
 

Proof that context is always vital.

This isn't showing the exposure without restrictions. In other words, it is no surprise that of the current total exposures to COVID that 25% are occurring in hospitality, that should be painfully obvious as most people are following the rules around masks in shops and supermarkets, and limiting contact in private dwellings.

The argument remains the same, that the level of risk in these settings is balanced by the necessity to keep the millions of people in the hospitality sector employed. Whether you agree with that or not is another matter, but it is not the case that restaurants or pubs are more dangerous than private dwellings, as some people are trying to infer.

If you suddenly shut all bars and restaurants then those risk factors would disappear from the graph, but Supermarkets and hospitals would suddenly shoot up as a percentage. Does that mean we shut supermarkets ? Of course not.

What matters most is a) number of serious infections and b) number of hospitalisations.
 
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