Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[bigjonny]

Sake.

Touching any thing wooden, (shut up at the back), our situation, so far, isnt leading to a significant increase in admissions. That said, all the Nightingale facilities were never stood down.

Keep touching a wooden thing , to quote my missus who works in A&E “ we had shedloads of COVID coming in today, absolute shedloads”.

 

[Charro]

Could English pubs follow in Scotland's steps?

While we expect more moves from No 10 to tackle Covid, there are many questions still to be settled.

www.bbc.co.uk

It really is just a matter of time before hospitality is locked down here.

There is absolutley no excuse to keep that open and infecting people. It's out of control again and pubs and restaurants need locking down and bolting up for months, not weeks.

I'm pretty sure the game now is getting some furlough scheme together for that sector, but its lockdown is assured IMO.

Unfortunately the furlough scheme can only go so far.

Listen to people working in hospitality and they’ll tell you they need the income to come in to survive.

It’s death from a thousand cuts for a lot of places, not just in hospitality.

Hopefully if they are to close it’s not a long term measure and something to just stop the spread over a short period of time.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Keep touching a wooden thing , to quote my missus who works in A&E “ we had shedloads of COVID coming in today, absolute shedloads”.

Very much appreciate the work your wife and her colleagues do mate, hope this is just a blip for all our sakes x

 

[paultheblue]

Keep touching a wooden thing , to quote my missus who works in A&E “ we had shedloads of COVID coming in today, absolute shedloads”.

That sounds grim mate , are they just walk ins or are they coming in by ambulance?

 

[Kenshin]

You've no right to do that when actual experts are telling you how severe it is...regardless of what their patients are saying. They can measure oxygen levels, damage to lungs and other organs, for example.

It's not a matter of belief or disbelief. There's no questioning it.

Dave.

This may be purely off topic but check this link out

https://www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/pneumonia/recovery

It is the recovery rate for pneumonia and it's long term effects.

1 week your fever should be gone
4 weeks
your chest will feel better and you’ll produce less mucus

6 weeks
you’ll cough less and find it easier to breathe

3 months most of your symptoms should be gone, though you may still feel tired
6 months you should feel back to normal

What has this got to do with long covid you may ask? Well Dave , Because where I say long covid is a buzz word , it makes me recall this story of a man who made a video saying to take covid seriously recently.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-Covid-b-t-posts-video-struggles-breathe.html

Again what has this got to do with long covid?

Well when you read the story it mentions the following;

He was diagnosed with coronavirus and acute pneumonia three days ago.

Now going further , if you check out the NHS description of pneumonia , it says the following

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pneumonia/

viral pneumonia – caused by a virus, such as coronavirus

So what if?

Long covid is not an actual thing but is the effects of pneumonia that people get after testing positive?

Well that would make the long term covid connected to a different respiratory virus entirely that very much exists before covid did , especially given the symptoms are the same?

 

[roydo]

Keep touching a wooden thing , to quote my missus who works in A&E “ we had shedloads of COVID coming in today, absolute shedloads”.

Liverpool has had it bad. Nationally, well, wooden things.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Any more research done that confirms once you've had it once you're unlikely to get it serious again?

I know antibodies wear off but something about T cells?

 

[Moomin]

Dave.

This may be purely off topic but check this link out

https://www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/pneumonia/recovery

It is the recovery rate for pneumonia and it's long term effects.



What has this got to do with long covid you may ask? Well Dave , Because where I say long covid is a buzz word , it makes me recall this story of a man who made a video saying to take covid seriously recently.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-Covid-b-t-posts-video-struggles-breathe.html

Again what has this got to do with long covid?

Well when you read the story it mentions the following;



Now going further , if you check out the NHS description of pneumonia , it says the following

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pneumonia/



So what if?

Long covid is not an actual thing but is the effects of pneumonia that people get after testing positive?

Well that would make the long term covid connected to a different respiratory virus entirely that very much exists before covid did , especially given the symptoms are the same?

You get your views from this freak.

 

[Kenshin]

You get your views from this freak.

Prove me wrong on what I posted.

 

[bigjonny]

That sounds grim mate , are they just walk ins or are they coming in by ambulance?

I don’t know mate, she’s involved after they’ve arrived ( diagnostics, so it’s their second stop).

 

[Huyton Layne]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Apparently Antonin Panenka (he of the famous penalty kick) is in ICU in Czech due to COVID.

 

[whiteshadow]

Any more research done that confirms once you've had it once you're unlikely to get it serious again?

I know antibodies wear off but something about T cells?

There's been no peer reviewed instance of someone being reinfected with the virus .... so far.

The handful of cases that have been reported, weren't peer reviewed.

Most experts seem to think people will have immunity at the very least for a few months after recovering from an infection, if not for over a year. This may turn out to be wrong but that's the general consensus currently and looks likely as no cases of reinfection have been substantiated.

Strong evidence suggesting that many people may already have some level of immunity through T cells. Seems that exposure to other coronavirues, although not the same, give the body a level of immunity against the virus.

Effective T cells rely on high enough levels of vitamin D in order for them to function properly so one of the best things people can do, with winter approaching, is to increase their Vitamin D levels.

There have been studies that prove the vitamin D is effective in reducing the chances of being admitted to ICU units. I think in the study I watched a video on they gave patients admitted to hospital a high dosage of vitamin D against a control group who weren't given anything. Only 5% of the patients given vitamin D ended up in ICU while over 50% of the control group ended up there.

 

[kenada_blue]

Could English pubs follow in Scotland's steps?

While we expect more moves from No 10 to tackle Covid, there are many questions still to be settled.

www.bbc.co.uk

It really is just a matter of time before hospitality is locked down here.

There is absolutley no excuse to keep that open and infecting people. It's out of control again and pubs and restaurants need locking down and bolting up for months, not weeks.

I'm pretty sure the game now is getting some furlough scheme together for that sector, but its lockdown is assured IMO.

So it's basically a lockdown without being named a lockdown.

This is gonna happen more regularly IMO, stop and start to see what works because I suppose the damage is more manageable than the two big options - full lockdown or herd immunity.

Here's an interesting insight into drs lobbing for herd measures - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54442386

The bottom line though - one kills the economy till it's pretty much unable to recover. One kills loads more people.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

There's been no peer reviewed instance of someone being reinfected with the virus .... so far.

The handful of cases that have been reported, weren't peer reviewed.

Most experts seem to think people will have immunity at the very least for a few months after recovering from an infection, if not for over a year. This may turn out to be wrong but that's the general consensus currently and looks likely as no cases of reinfection have been substantiated.

Strong evidence suggesting that many people may already have some level of immunity through T cells. Seems that exposure to other coronavirues, although not the same, give the body a level of immunity against the virus.

Effective T cells rely on high enough levels of vitamin D in order for them to function properly so one of the best things people can do, with winter approaching, is to increase their Vitamin D levels.

There have been studies that prove the vitamin D is effective in reducing the chances of being admitted to ICU units. I think in the study I watched a video on they gave patients admitted to hospital a high dosage of vitamin D against a control group who weren't given anything. Only 5% of the patients given vitamin D ended up in ICU while over 50% of the control group ended up there.

Be interesting that considering there are hundreds of viruses that cause the common cold - could be those who have had a cold recently or in the past from one of the 4 harmless Coronavirus' have some more protection against covid?