Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Moomin]

Prove me wrong on what I posted.

The other day you thought Flu was a corona virus.

That will do for me.

 

[The binman chronicles]

So it's basically a lockdown without being named a lockdown.

This is gonna happen more regularly IMO, stop and start to see what works because I suppose the damage is more manageable than the two big options - full lockdown or herd immunity.

Here's an interesting insight into drs lobbing for herd measures - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54442386

The bottom line though - one kills the economy till it's pretty much unable to recover. One kills loads more people.

I can't help but feel a lot of these 'experts' are about to retire and are more worried by the size of their pension pots than the general health of the public. After all people in their circles tend not to hang around in pubs and are generally more careful.

 

[whiteshadow]

Be interesting that considering there are hundreds of viruses that cause the common cold - could be those who have had a cold recently or in the past from one of the 4 harmless Coronavirus' have some more protection against covid?

Yeah, that's what a lot of experts think. Hopefully it turns out to be right.

Would also explain why Swedens cases although getting really high never got out of control.

Looking at London, although they still get cases, they're not half as bad as others parts of the country. Feels like the virus is struggling to spread as well through the city even though it should be the hardest place to keep the infection levels down, which may back up that theory.

It's like the places that didn't get hit hard in the first wave are the ones getting hit now. We're detecting more cases now, due to increased testing, but the hospitilisations are lower than at the peak, so the virus must have been more prevelant than it is now.

 

[Kenshin]

The other day you thought Flu was a corona virus.

That will do for me.

I had assumed it was in the same family as the cold.

As the saying goes assuming makes an ass out of you and me, So there you go.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So it's basically a lockdown without being named a lockdown.

This is gonna happen more regularly IMO, stop and start to see what works because I suppose the damage is more manageable than the two big options - full lockdown or herd immunity.

Here's an interesting insight into drs lobbing for herd measures - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54442386

The bottom line though - one kills the economy till it's pretty much unable to recover. One kills loads more people.

I do find it interesting that despite the number of scientists critical of the work of Gupta and the those critical about modelling analysis, her lack of clarity or push back regarding those citing her work to suggest there was no need for intervention because 50% population already had Covid - that this hasn't had anywhere near the media criticism or skepticism as Neil Ferguson's modelling..

 

[Jebus_lives]

I had assumed it was in the same family as the cold.

As the saying goes assuming makes an ass out of you and me, So there you go.

Dr Kenshin everyone

 

[Jebus_lives]

Dave.

This may be purely off topic but check this link out

https://www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/pneumonia/recovery

It is the recovery rate for pneumonia and it's long term effects.



What has this got to do with long covid you may ask? Well Dave , Because where I say long covid is a buzz word , it makes me recall this story of a man who made a video saying to take covid seriously recently.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-Covid-b-t-posts-video-struggles-breathe.html

Again what has this got to do with long covid?

Well when you read the story it mentions the following;



Now going further , if you check out the NHS description of pneumonia , it says the following

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pneumonia/



So what if?

Long covid is not an actual thing but is the effects of pneumonia that people get after testing positive?

Well that would make the long term covid connected to a different respiratory virus entirely that very much exists before covid did , especially given the symptoms are the same?

What if 1+1+1+1 is actually 2?????!!!

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 60 deaths were announced today, the same total as yesterday and 16 up on last Wednesday. 54 deaths were in English hospitals, up 4 on yesterday and up 11 on last week with all occurring in the past 10 days. The 7 day rolling average rises to 46.86

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 70 deaths were announced today, down 6 on yesterday and down 1 on last Wednesday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 53.14

For the 60 day cut off, 79 deaths were announced today, 2 up on yesterday and 7 up on last Wednesday. I don’t have the 7 day rolling average info as yet

There is no data for the legacy/no cut off as that measure of data is being retired

 

[Kenshin]

What if 1+1+1+1 is actually 2?????!!!

Just admit I have a point there lol

Dr kenshin may just be onto something

 

[Nymzee]

Just admit I have a point there lol

Dr kenshin may just be onto something

This has to stop; it’s very embarrassing.

 

[kenada_blue]

I do find it interesting that despite the number of scientists critical of the work of Gupta and the those critical about modelling analysis, her lack of clarity or push back regarding those citing her work to suggest there was no need for intervention because 50% population already had Covid - that this hasn't had anywhere near the media criticism or skepticism as Neil Ferguson's modelling..

Because I don't think they take Gupta seriously to have a go at her. The herd immunity idea despite being another "option" has been labelled as a fringe model by the majority.

The idea that more people will die but the population will get better in the long run will more than likely be shrugged to one side.

 

[the sniderman]

hello buddies i have been reading with great interest and was worried earlier that the pseudo scientist crazies was prevailing but those who aren’t intimidated by experts seems to be winning this thread again.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Dr @Kenshin my knackers have been aching me lately particularly after some frolicking in the shower - how long have they got left Doc??

 

[Moomin]

Dr @Kenshin my knackers have been aching me lately particularly after some frolicking in the shower - how long have they got left Doc??

Probably come and say you got stung by a Mosquito that has been developed by Bill Gates.

 

[davek]

Dave.

This may be purely off topic but check this link out

https://www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/pneumonia/recovery

It is the recovery rate for pneumonia and it's long term effects.



What has this got to do with long covid you may ask? Well Dave , Because where I say long covid is a buzz word , it makes me recall this story of a man who made a video saying to take covid seriously recently.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-Covid-b-t-posts-video-struggles-breathe.html

Again what has this got to do with long covid?

Well when you read the story it mentions the following;



Now going further , if you check out the NHS description of pneumonia , it says the following

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pneumonia/



So what if?

Long covid is not an actual thing but is the effects of pneumonia that people get after testing positive?

Well that would make the long term covid connected to a different respiratory virus entirely that very much exists before covid did , especially given the symptoms are the same?

If people have ME and are suffering from lethargy and muscle weakness, does it make M.E. not real because those symptoms are also shared by people who had pneumonia?

You're creating friction against Long Covid - an established illness now - just because you want to portray this virus as one that purely affects the old and therefore there's a compelling case for leaving everywhere open. 66,000 people (mostly of a younger under 60s age group) will tell you that's wrong.