Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JLW]

The flu vaccine is around 60% effective and has a generally poor uptake across the population.

In the defined categories this is the percentage uptake for 2019:

• adults aged 65 or older: 72.0%
• adults in at-risk groups: 48.0%
• pregnant women: 45.2%
• children aged 2: 43.8%
• children aged 3: 45.9%

I guess that’s a breakdown of the percentage of people who’ve had the flu jab? So over half the population have had it and yet we still have 10,000 plus deaths per year.
If we had the same percentage vaccinated against COVID how many on average deaths would we have compared to the flu?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

My issue is the world's governments have had all year now, and six months (most of those spent in lockdown to varying degrees in each country).

Each healthcare system in developed European nations should be able to handle it by now.

I reckon it may take slightly longer than that to recruit and train medical staff.

 

[BlueToff]

I reckon it may take slightly longer than that to recruit and train medical staff.

By spring it will have been a year.

That is more than enough time to come out of this without lockdown being the only solution.

That's what I'm talking about. I accept that to get us through this winter season we're gonna need restrictions. I still don't think that excuses them though.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Mental health issues and loneliness don't boil down to age.

Just like people in their 20s having their careers flipped is the same as someone in their 50s having it done too.

I mean at least they had a pandemic-free youth.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I reckon it may take slightly longer than that to recruit and train medical staff.

I genuinely think that after a year of restrictions, they will start to cause more harm than good.

They said 3 weeks back in March and it's now been 6 months. We have to keep on top of things over the winter, but once we get to the spring, we have to move forward and allow people back to normal. People will be so weary of all this after the winter and will need a bit of hope.

I've said it before, but if the only solution our politicians have to this is to keep making restrictions tighter, then we need a new government.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

By spring it will have been a year.

That is more than enough time to come out of this without lockdown being the only solution.

That's what I'm talking about. I accept that to get us through this winter season we're gonna need restrictions. I still don't think that excuses them though.

What are your ideas for controlling the spread of an aerosol virus without people remaining distanced from each other? Or you just let it rip?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I genuinely think that after a year of restrictions, they will start to cause more harm than good.

They said 3 weeks back in March and it's now been 6 months. We have to keep on top of things over the winter, but once we get to the spring, we have to move forward and allow people back to normal. People will be so weary of all this after the winter and will need a bit of hope.

I said on here a couple of days ago, I believe the winter is the time we have to get right. Corona is just a new one to add to the list of things that vulnerable people die from in winter and keeping capacity in health systems is the key to being able to shift towards normal come spring.

Or in other words, we've a record out in January and I want to be able to promote it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I guess that’s a breakdown of the percentage of people who’ve had the flu jab? So over half the population have had it and yet we still have 10,000 plus deaths per year.
If we had the same percentage vaccinated against COVID how many on average deaths would we have compared to the flu?

Not even close.

That's the percentage of those who are listed in categories that get it free or advised to get it.

In 'at risk categories' it's largely around 40% uptake. As far as general population, much lower.

 

[Charro]

Just use your common sense when it comes to the rules.

I will be in a house with seven people at the weekend.

Of the people there three get tested on a regular basis through work, two people tested positive for the virus back in May, so the risk of infection is low.

My Mrs mum and dad are throwing a birthday party for me because I had to cancel all plans for my 30th due to a serious family emergency. Now, do I say cancel it because more than six people will be there, or do we evaluate the risks to ourselves and say it’s ok to go ahead?

Public transport is another one. You’re only supposed to be using it for essential reason but if you have your mask, sanitise your hands and travel when it’s quiet then you’re massively limiting your risk of contracting the virus.

Obviously follow the rules as much as possible but if you have to break them use your common sense.

 

[Brennan]

The new job scheme seems pretty good ?

 

[ToffeeTim]

The new job scheme seems pretty good ?

I think so yes. Need to see the guidance from the revenue though

VAT deferral a good help as well

 

[ToffeeTim]

The arguments moaning about a lack of a budget in November are farcical

We've had about 10 mini budgets in 6 months. How many do you want lol

 

[Nymzee]

Not really. They have their children. All my friends atm are depressed. It is really sad to see. We can't talk more than 10 minutes without touching covid, all the fun during our convos died.

Maybe too flittingly using the word depressed there.

 

[YoboCopter]

Just use your common sense when it comes to the rules.

I will be in a house with seven people at the weekend.

Of the people there three get tested on a regular basis through work, two people tested positive for the virus back in May, so the risk of infection is low.

My Mrs mum and dad are throwing a birthday party for me because I had to cancel all plans for my 30th due to a serious family emergency. Now, do I say cancel it because more than six people will be there, or do we evaluate the risks to ourselves and say it’s ok to go ahead?

Public transport is another one. You’re only supposed to be using it for essential reason but if you have your mask, sanitise your hands and travel when it’s quiet then you’re massively limiting your risk of contracting the virus.

Obviously follow the rules as much as possible but if you have to break them use your common sense.

Best post in thread

 

[YoboCopter]

Maybe too flittingly using the word depressed there.

Or maybe not be hard to say unless you know full story