Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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He added mental health into the mix as the reason his chip shop / ale houses need to serve beyond 10pm. Apparently without them there'll be a national meltdown. After all, everyone knows drinking alcohol and stuffing kebabs down your gob are the bedrock for mental stability.
Aside from the extreme examples, I don't think the impacts of this pandemic on hospitality and tourism can be dismissed.

They are important to communities, particularly coastal communities who are tourism and seasonal dependent. Take Blackpool as an example, almost it's entire economy is based on either hospitality or public sector employment. It has the highest rating for depravation in the UK and has multiple factors that make it much more susceptible to Covid19 - multiple occupancy housing, low income housing, high comorbities, long term physical and mental health concerns.

If you completely shut down the tourism industry in that town you exacerbate the other factors. If you entirely keep it open you run the risk of high numbers of deaths and overwhelming the health services.

Which option are you going for?
 
Apparently Bongo Bingo (whatever that is) has had to cancel loads of its events.

More collateral damage.
Bongo's Bingo...what a loss this is going to be....

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...thoughts and prayers going out to all those caught up in the collateral damage.
Bongo's Bingo cancelled - how will we survive?

It's going to be a long and cruel winter.
I'm scratching me head here trying to understand why Bongo's Bingo has been cancelled.

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Mate, just admit that you are gutted about bongo bingo.

You seem deeply concerned about that in particular.
 
Aside from the extreme examples, I don't think the impacts of this pandemic on hospitality and tourism can be dismissed.

They are important to communities, particularly coastal communities who are tourism and seasonal dependent. Take Blackpool as an example, almost it's entire economy is based on either hospitality or public sector employment. It has the highest rating for depravation in the UK and has multiple factors that make it much more susceptible to Covid19 - multiple occupancy housing, low income housing, high comorbities, long term physical and mental health concerns.

If you completely shut down the tourism industry in that town you exacerbate the other factors. If you entirely keep it open you run the risk of high numbers of deaths and overwhelming the health services.

Which option are you going for?
An unrestricted tourism industry in a second wave will increase infection. We saw how the first wave spike was flattened out: there was a lockdown and mobility was minimal. It's the only way to get on top of it, so tourism will have to wait again.

The structural problem is that the UK economy is skewed - a disproportionate amount of people involved in service industries requiring face to face contact.
 
Aside from the extreme examples, I don't think the impacts of this pandemic on hospitality and tourism can be dismissed.

They are important to communities, particularly coastal communities who are tourism and seasonal dependent. Take Blackpool as an example, almost it's entire economy is based on either hospitality or public sector employment. It has the highest rating for depravation in the UK and has multiple factors that make it much more susceptible to Covid19 - multiple occupancy housing, low income housing, high comorbities, long term physical and mental health concerns.

If you completely shut down the tourism industry in that town you exacerbate the other factors. If you entirely keep it open you run the risk of high numbers of deaths and overwhelming the health services.

Which option are you going for?

Its a shame that there isn't enough money in the treasury to you know use govmnt monies to help struggling communities that were greatly affected by the pandemic so that you could perhaps head off a potentially lethal and economically devastating 2nd wave now that winter is coming. Britian is still a relatively prosperous country, I wonder how it could come to this.

The UK has been described as "the world's greatest enabler" of corporate tax avoidance.

oh
 
An unrestricted tourism industry in a second wave will increase infection. We saw how the first wave spike was flattened out: there was a lockdown and mobility was minimal. It's the only way to get on top of it, so tourism will have to wait again.

The structural problem is that the UK economy is skewed - a disproportionate amount of people involved in service industries requiring face to face contact.

But what happens when we get on top of it again? Its like groundhog day, this will keep happening. What is the end game for any country with regards to Covid? There is no sign a vaccine will be ready soon and even if it is, you have billions of people you need to vaccinate, how long is that going to take? What about all the anti vaxxers and people (myself included) who would be extremely wary injecting something into the body that we do not know what the long term effects on us may be? Whose to say the vaccine will be enough to immunize the majority of people that do take it?

I wouldn't want to be in politics and be making these decisions that's for sure, i just do not see though how keep locking down areas is the answer long term...
 
Just had the misfortune there of watching a Newsnight interview with a spokeman for the hospitality sector. Whingeing rat complaining about 'collateral damage' of "restrictions"....one 'kin hour off opening times.

Horrendous little maggot. The BBC handing 15 minutes of air time over to him to push his filth is a disgrace.

I imagine he's a bit worried about the sector, the economic impact on communities reliant on the sector, the long term financial, social, physical and mental well-being of those areas.

It is possible to want to limit the impact of Covid19 while simultaneously looking to mitigate risk in the hospitality industry to keep it from crumbling.

Confidence is not going to return just because a few people 'say what about us?' due to all these new restrictions. There haven't been a lot of people out (round here at least) since it blew up. With the R factor increasing the death rate will climb and less people will go out anyhow as it may be easy to ignore now but it won't be when hundreds/thousands start dying per day if left unchecked.

Of course it will help the businesses temporarily with cashflow if they had less controls but it's also true to say it will just speed up that outcome if everyone started going out more, leading to a quicker total shutdown. Make no mistake the business models are on its ass. Less and less people have disposable income, so they are not going to be flocking out which in turn will make more people redundant, which leads to less...and so on.

In that respect I know it's usually good to have balance in the news but it's another case of mixed messages, 'Look this person says it's fine to go out until 3am' etc. People shouldn't be taking in what these with vested interests say, just like Karen Brady's 'stadiums are safer than your living room' statement, but you can see some do.

We need some way of mothballing these industries and business that don't get enough footfall to survive with a decent basic income from the government and help from financial institutions in regard to landlords/mortgages so they can surive this winter and come out the otherside. That or we lockdown completely for a month and control our borders to stop it being reintroduced. You can't have the virus and keep the economy pushing on, the two don't go together without Joe public completely buying in and not just following the rules but going further than the rules to protect themselves and others. Any thinking otherwise leads to the 'please go back to work' and then a few weeks later 'please stay at home' reactions that further confuse the narrative.

Tldr summary: The hospitality industry is screwed and no amount of wishful thinking is going to help.
 
Do people seriously think everyone will leave the pub at 10 and head straight home? Surely they aren't that naive.

To be honest, if people are stupid then further lockdowns will follow. It's in our hands here. Act sensibly and we can live a relatively normal life over winter. Act like knobs and we'll be back to being heavily restricted.
 
The government are basically operating on the idea that as long as they act like they've done something, they can blame the public for not doing it.

So the news crews will pick up video of people staggering around in groups at midnight utterly rat-arsed and the government will go "see? It's your own fault! Not ours!"

Same with "Rule of Six" - there's absolutely no belief from anyone that it'll actually be adhered to, but that's the whole point for the government. It's passing the blame parcel for their own incompetence in getting no track and trace system together and so on.

They're two completely separate things. Tracking and tracing only comes into play once someone is infected, and is the preserve of government, but not getting infected, or indeed behaving properly when you are infected, is down to us. I mean if @COYBL25 's family wanted, they could get out and about, go shopping, generally be knobheads despite having a confirmed test. That's not the government's fault, that's their responsibility. If the people his family has been in contact with haven't been informed so they can get themselves tested, then that's down to the government.
 
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