Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

I haven't said it's not bad, just that the restrictions announced today aren't that different to what we had last week.

Okay I see your point.

Suppose a lot just hoped our efforts earlier in the year would avoid this. Obviously not.

 

[peteblue]

Until you are forced to shut in a few weeks time when they have nothing else to blame.

Then I will drink the whole pub dry.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

I haven't said it's not bad, just that the restrictions announced today aren't that different to what we had last week.

Its more of a *serious voice*

'ok you're on your last warning...'

 

[Goat]

Okay I see your point.

Suppose a lot just hoped our efforts earlier in the year would avoid this. Obviously not.

Track and trace would have avoided this.

Dont let them change the narrative, its not OUR fault, its theirs.

 

[peteblue]

Every one of the devolved governments have slightly different rules just because they can. Its a complete shambles. Especially since any financial help comes from the treasury which is controlled by Westminster.

Yep. After all this we need to put the devolved ‘governments’ back in their boxes. Scotland, Wales and NI are smaller than London........

 

[Jebus_lives]

If we go back into lockdown fingers crossed Pornhub make exclusive content free again to get us through the winter

Always wondered who is buying porn in the internet age.

 

[tsubaki]

Yep. After all this we need to put the devolved ‘governments’ back in their boxes. Scotland, Wales and NI are smaller than London........

Great logic that, given that so far at least they’ve handled this much better than England has.

 

[The Missing Lineker]

There is a very tangible prospect that increased distancing and isolation measures will come in over winter. Historically, the flu season in this country kills what 12000 to 17000 vulnerable people? Many of these won’t die of the flu as an incidental advantage of the Covid restrictions. But doesn’t that mean the number of vulnerable people increases disproportionately going into the next year?

This will increase the excess fatality figures from normal in 2021 whether they’re taken by Covid or any other cause. Which means death rates will need to interpreted carefully in the context of how it reflects the impact from the pandemic.

I expect there’s going to be continuing unhelpful disunity amongst scientists, epidemiologists and politicians for this reason amongst others.

 

[Goat]

There is a very tangible prospect that increased distancing and isolation measures will come in over winter. Historically, the flu season in this country kills what 12000 to 17000 vulnerable people? Many of these won’t die of the flu as an incidental advantage of the Covid restrictions. But doesn’t that mean the number of vulnerable people increases disproportionately going into the next year?

This will increase the excess fatality figures from normal in 2021 whether they’re taken by Covid or any other cause. Which means death rates will need to interpreted carefully in the context of how it reflects the impact from the pandemic.

I expect there’s going to be continuing unhelpful disunity amongst scientists, epidemiologists and politicians for this reason amongst others.

This headline caught my eye just now.

Catching flu and Covid-19 at same time almost doubles risk of death
Public Health England official warns that anyone who gets flu and coronavirus at once would be in 'some serious trouble'



Imagine that scary prospect.

 

[Toffee in Jandals]

Bold bit is really a massive, game-changing difference between the two countries mate.

NZ can't be compared to the UK.

We can't really lockdown again. I just can't see them doing it. For two main reasons - first, the prevention is worse than the cure with it - if it hits a certain tipping point, I think they'll lockdown care homes, perhaps those aged 60+, but not a national lockdown and I don't think any of it would be enforced. Because of the second reason, and I think you'd have to be here to understand it really, but honestly, very few people now would obey a second lockdown.

I'll add a third reason as well - it's already too late.

I don't know if you've heard of this stupid "Rule of Six" that's in place right now? I don't know a single person who even entertained the idea of obeying it.

We're being lectured to by a clown, being told basically to behave by a serial liar/womaniser, backed by scientists who have been proven wrong several times and look like they're spinning data to meet their own preset agenda. I can understand why anyone would ignore everything that comes out of their mouthes tbh.

All good points. We're a bit lucky to have a comparatively efficient government who have been pretty clear in their communication.

 

[The Missing Lineker]

This headline caught my eye just now.

Catching flu and Covid-19 at same time almost doubles risk of death
Public Health England official warns that anyone who gets flu and coronavirus at once would be in 'some serious trouble'



Imagine that scary prospect.

Boris can do one. I’m going into a self-imposed total lockdown until next Spring

 

[davek]

Just had the misfortune there of watching a Newsnight interview with a spokeman for the hospitality sector. Whingeing rat complaining about 'collateral damage' of "restrictions"....one 'kin hour off opening times.

Horrendous little maggot. The BBC handing 15 minutes of air time over to him to push his filth is a disgrace.

 

[Jebus_lives]

This headline caught my eye just now.

Catching flu and Covid-19 at same time almost doubles risk of death
Public Health England official warns that anyone who gets flu and coronavirus at once would be in 'some serious trouble'



Imagine that scary prospect.

Get your flu jab folks...

Flu vaccine

Find out about the flu vaccine for adults, including who should have it, how to get it and side effects.

www.nhs.uk

 

[Jebus_lives]

Just had the misfortune there of watching a Newsnight interview with a spokeman for the hospitality sector. Whingeing rat complaining about 'collateral damage' of "restrictions"....one 'kin hour off opening times.

Horrendous little maggot. The BBC handing 15 minutes of air time over to him to push his filth is a disgrace.

I imagine he's a bit worried about the sector, the economic impact on communities reliant on the sector, the long term financial, social, physical and mental well-being of those areas.

It is possible to want to limit the impact of Covid19 while simultaneously looking to mitigate risk in the hospitality industry to keep it from crumbling.

 

[davek]

I imagine he's a bit worried about the sector, the economic impact on communities reliant on the sector, the long term financial, social, physical and mental well-being of those areas.

It is possible to want to limit the impact of Covid19 while simultaneously looking to mitigate risk in the hospitality industry to keep it from crumbling.

He's worried about stuffing more cash into his account, that's all. The rest is window dressing.