I’ll be honest I really don’t give a flying fook if they’re pushing back the return to sports stadiums. Such an irrelevant thing to do in the grand scheme of things.
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Oh Christmas is cancelled now mate, haha.
It's been ridiculous all along but lockdown was needed initially for the mess we were in.
I suppose the logic is just to get us through winter without a full lockdown and also to ensure the NHS isn't overrun by this combined with a tough flu season. I get it, it's just so frustrating that it could have been avoided had we simply had the track and trace system up and running properly.
Even that isn't a long-term solution though. And it feels harsh saying it (especially as someone who lost a relative in May) but there comes a point where the only actual solution is for countries to get a grip and realise that hiding away isn't the solution and neither is shutting down life.
Life's precious and this year has been taken away from everybody in the interest of the greater good. My mum looked after a 75-year-old pre-lockdown. Looked after her for 5 years, she had dementia. She sadly died (not of Covid, but she had contracted it in May and then fought it off) in July. Her daughter saw her once in three months, a day before her death.
Fear does funny, funny things to people. My friend's mum (bare in mind he's 25 - he lives in Leeds and was there in lockdown but came home in June after 3 months in a flat on his own) won't have him going in cars with other people because she's so scared. It's ridiculous behaviour from her but it's not helped by the media and then our shoddy government and their haphazard approach.
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ONS (6th June)
- Because of the higher number of deaths among men, 17 specific occupations were found to have raised rates of death involving COVID-19, some of which included: taxi drivers and chauffeurs (65.3 deaths per 100,000; 134 deaths); bus and coach drivers (44.2 deaths per 100,000; 53 deaths); chefs (56.8 deaths per 100,000; 49 deaths); and sales and retail assistants (34.2 deaths per 100,000; 43 deaths).
Unfortunately mate I think this is mainly to do with our flu season. I think 17,000 deaths is the average here in the UK for flu each winter.
They're hobbling us through so as not to get covid on top of that. If the time comes when a hard lockdown is needed then they probably will go for something like you suggest, but as it stands I believe their logic (flawed or not) is to keep stuff like schools, cafe's, bars construction etc running in some capacity so there is some normality and money pumping around.
Hope you're doing well over there.
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Thanks mate, yeah doing OK, still employed so that's something. COVID restrictions have been removed again outside of Auckland as of yesterday which is great (even Auckland is only at our Level 2, which basically just means large gatherings over 100 are banned, there are capacity restrictions at bars/restaurants, and facemasks are mandatory on public transport).
Yeah it's the classic health v economy argument that the entire world is having. Sadly every country has their own way of doing things, I often wonder if things would be better if the WHO had greater powers of international control in the event of an international health emergency. Of course though governments wouldn't like that idea of an international body dictating terms, however sensible a one best-way strategy would be.
I haven't said it's not bad, just that the restrictions announced today aren't that different to what we had last week.
Fathers aren't allowed to see scans of their children either. Heck, they weren't allowed to attend the birth for a bit in Ireland. Perspective. I know this is a football forum, but it's just a game.
Do people seriously think everyone will leave the pub at 10 and head straight home? Surely they aren't that naive.
summerisle
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Bold bit is really a massive, game-changing difference between the two countries mate.
NZ can't be compared to the UK.
We can't really lockdown again. I just can't see them doing it. For two main reasons - first, the prevention is worse than the cure with it - if it hits a certain tipping point, I think they'll lockdown care homes, perhaps those aged 60+, but not a national lockdown and I don't think any of it would be enforced. Because of the second reason, and I think you'd have to be here to understand it really, but honestly, very few people now would obey a second lockdown.
I'll add a third reason as well - it's already too late.
I don't know if you've heard of this stupid "Rule of Six" that's in place right now? I don't know a single person who even entertained the idea of obeying it.
We're being lectured to by a clown, being told basically to behave by a serial liar/womaniser, backed by scientists who have been proven wrong several times and look like they're spinning data to meet their own preset agenda. I can understand why anyone would ignore everything that comes out of their mouthes tbh.
The government are basically operating on the idea that as long as they act like they've done something, they can blame the public for not doing it.
So the news crews will pick up video of people staggering around in groups at midnight utterly rat-arsed and the government will go "see? It's your own fault! Not ours!"
Same with "Rule of Six" - there's absolutely no belief from anyone that it'll actually be adhered to, but that's the whole point for the government. It's passing the blame parcel for their own incompetence in getting no track and trace system together and so on.
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If we go back into lockdown fingers crossed Pornhub make exclusive content free again to get us through the winter
Every one of the devolved governments have slightly different rules just because they can. Its a complete shambles. Especially since any financial help comes from the treasury which is controlled by Westminster.
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