Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Brennan]

Thats not to bad all things considerd is it
Its certinley better than 1k plus

200 additional British people dying every day isn’t too bad ?

 

[COYBL25]

Incidentally, the health minister in the not at all banana republic Czech government resigned today

Coward, he should’ve committed Hari Kari live on television.

 

[orchard]

8% of the population having had it already seems a lot more than they've previously said

Didn't the slide range between 5 and 7pc?

Also, reinfections or loss of immunity confirmed...

 

[BlueToff]

Aye true mate

This T Cell thing then - could we use it to identify those most at risk and for those with T Cells for the virus give them like a passport that was muted in Germany to get them back out keeping the economy going?

We need to start thinking outside the box with this thing.

Ultimately once this is over I hope we realise we cant keep messing about with nature and start respecting animals/wildlife more before the next virus pops along.

I don't know mate.

Each group of scientists seems to have a different idea of how to fight this thing and countries seem to be working against each other rather than with each other.

 

[arminisgod]

200 additional British people dying every day isn’t too bad ?

It's not additional though is it?

 

[YoboCopter]

200 additional British people dying every day isn’t too bad ?

Comparing to 1k a day and people saying the second wave is going to be even worse you would be naive if you think otherwise

 

[BlueToff]

the debate over having a lockdown or not - its like debating over whether to jump out of a crashing plane or not

Well not really.

Another national, full-scale lockdown and that's it. Industries are never coming back. They're already on their collective a**** right now.

You cannot separate economical and social matters. Unfortunately they both impact each other.

So while I agree the UK's approach has been ludicrously hap-hazard, doing what they can to avoid another full lockdown makes sense. It's unfeasible.

 

[Brennan]

Comparing to 1k a day and people saying the second wave is going to be even worse you would be naive if you think otherwise

It’s naive to think 200 people dying isn’t “too bad”.

Right.

 

[BlueToff]

It's obviously the growth issue which is the problem. If it's 200 people per-day by early November, then it could be back to 1,000 per-day by December.

 

[Brennan]

It's obviously the growth issue which is the problem. If it's 200 people per-day by early November, then it could be back to 1,000 per-day by December.

Bingo.

 

[tsubaki]

I might be being dim.

Are you in favour of a lockdown or not ?

I think a second lockdown is going to be an absolute disaster and could absolutely have been avoided, but if the alternative is the same as / worse than what we saw late March / early April with 900-odd dying a day (or worse) then the government is going to have to do it.

 

[orchard]

Admittedly, I was more interested in their ties, but I think I may have this:

Doubling every week lids, currently over 100per day, doubling every week = 800million an hour in the future unless gymnasiums close.

 

[Brennan]

It's not additional though is it?

19 out of 20 patients committed to intensive care with COVID were free of severe co-morbidities.

93 percent of people critically ill with COVID were previously able to live their lives without any daily assistance.

Let's dispel the myth that coronavirus victims were all at death's door

There has been a bit of an unpleasant and inaccurate narrative over recent days that the majority of Covid-19 deaths were people who were ‘at death’s door’ in any case. Some have been making the point that these people died ‘with’, rather than ‘of’, the disease. It’s important to address that. A...

www.spectator.co.uk

Would these people have died if Covid-19 didn’t exist?

Researchers at the University of Glasgow in Scotland answered that question with a resounding “not yet.” In a study that has yet to be peer reviewed, the researchers compared the ages of Covid-19 victims to standard measures of life expectancy, while also accounting for their underlying health conditions. The average Covid-19 death subtracted 13 years of life from women and 11 for men.

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[TowerToffee]

So is Boris revealing his new lockdown plans today ?

 

[tsubaki]

Well not really.

Another national, full-scale lockdown and that's it. Industries are never coming back. They're already on their collective a**** right now.

You cannot separate economical and social matters. Unfortunately they both impact each other.

So while I agree the UK's approach has been ludicrously hap-hazard, doing what they can to avoid another full lockdown makes sense. It's unfeasible.

What they've done isn't - they still think its possible for them to manage this despite having none of the tools that would be needed to do it. I agree that a full scale lockdown will be a disaster but because they've wasted four months and billions of pounds they are very likely not going to be able to avoid it now. Incompetent people do not become competent by acting incompetently.