Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Goat]

Homes are a driver for the virus because people are out in pubs or restaurants or shops or any enclosed space for hours on end and then they bring that back home.

People cant not live in their home, but they CAN be kept out of bars and restaurants and salons and gyms. That's the only solution here. Shut the hospitality sector down for 8 weeks and cap this infection rate off. There'll be mass casualties otherwise. I couldn't give a flying one about anyone wanting their 'liberty' to get bladdered in ale houses and eat crap in restaurants o lift weights in a gym being eroded.

Selfish weapons.

I think 8 weeks is a little excessive, its needed, but people will go insane and many millions of people will lose their jobs and their homes.

I know our focus should be saving lives, but we have to have a country to live in and another 8 week lockdown destroys everything IMO.

Personally I would be going for a short 2 week full lockdown, lockdown EVERYTHING, use the furlough scheme to re-employ people in supermarkets and have a full team in each 1 checking people are wearing masks, checking temps and all that jazz.

We need to knock the edge of what comes next.

 

[Billy Dean]

How on earth do they know the time someone got it?

The article doesn't explain it, but if Dutch bars are anything like German ones then customers would've had to fill in their details upon entering and leaving the pub and there would've been a team of contact tracers following up.

Here's the article:

Scientists Weigh the Benefits of Air Purifiers in Fighting COVID-19

Coronavirus pathogens can float in the air for hours, which is a significant threat. Researchers are developing ideas for how to prevent infections in schools, restaurants and offices using ventilation equipment, air filters and UV radiation.

www.spiegel.de

And the relevant quote:

The example of the De Kleine Beurs bar in Hillegom near Amsterdam underscores his point. On Saturday, July 11, nobody who visited the bar and went home before 11 p.m. got infected with the coronavirus. Then, the people running the bar closed the door and the windows because of noise regulations. Of the 50 or so guests who were still there, 31 got infected.

 

[Billy Dean]

Restaurants and pubs struggling to survive though aren't going to tear out old ventilation systems or adapt them for thousands of quid to draw in outside air rather than recirculate...and it'd freeze the bollocks off customers at any rate.

Yes once the temperatures drop it'll be a whole different ball game.

 

[Charro]

Cant it?

Watch it happen.

We are not going into a three month lockdown like previously in the the year.

Restrictions will come and go on a regional level and possible a national level if there’s a massive spike.

We need a country to come back. Seems like this is the way of the world now as the economy and jobs start to take importance which is understandable.

There’s a middle ground between full lockdown and herd immunity that needs to be found now.

 

[Charro]

I think 8 weeks is a little excessive, its needed, but people will go insane and many millions of people will lose their jobs and their homes.

I know our focus should be saving lives, but we have to have a country to live in and another 8 week lockdown destroys everything IMO.

Personally I would be going for a short 2 week full lockdown, lockdown EVERYTHING, use the furlough scheme to re-employ people in supermarkets and have a full team in each 1 checking people are wearing masks, checking temps and all that jazz.

We need to knock the edge of what comes next.

This is what I would do.

Do a full on two week lockdown.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

The article doesn't explain it, but if Dutch bars are anything like German ones then customers would've had to fill in their details upon entering and leaving the pub and there would've been a team of contact tracers following up.

Here's the article:

Scientists Weigh the Benefits of Air Purifiers in Fighting COVID-19

Coronavirus pathogens can float in the air for hours, which is a significant threat. Researchers are developing ideas for how to prevent infections in schools, restaurants and offices using ventilation equipment, air filters and UV radiation.

www.spiegel.de

And the relevant quote:

No or very limited contact tracing in Netherlands... the most relaxed place in Europe over this.

 

[COYBL25]

People cant not live in their home, but they CAN be kept out of bars and restaurants and salons and gyms. That's the only solution here. Shut the hospitality sector down for 8 weeks and cap this infection rate off. There'll be mass casualties otherwise. I couldn't give a flying one about anyone wanting their 'liberty' to get bladdered in ale houses and eat crap in restaurants or lift weights in a gym being eroded.

Selfish weapons.
[/QUOTE]

Full spaff.

 

[RAFUH]

A lockdown won't matter if folks won't follow masking/social distancing guidelines once it is lifted.

 

[Billy Dean]

No or very limited contact tracing in Netherlands... the most relaxed place in Europe over this.

I don't understand why certain countries don't bother with it. Especially if they want to open things up again.

 

[davek]

I think 8 weeks is a little excessive, its needed, but people will go insane and many millions of people will lose their jobs and their homes.

I know our focus should be saving lives, but we have to have a country to live in and another 8 week lockdown destroys everything IMO.

Personally I would be going for a short 2 week full lockdown, lockdown EVERYTHING, use the furlough scheme to re-employ people in supermarkets and have a full team in each 1 checking people are wearing masks, checking temps and all that jazz.

We need to knock the edge of what comes next.

Restaurants and pubs have been coining it in over the summer. They can survive on their profits...certainly the major chains can. The major chains can also afford to contribute to furloughed worker's wages that they employ. Pubs and restaurants and salons and gyms that cant survive are struggling at any rate. These jobs are hanging by a thread at the best of times.

We cant afford for the psyche of the nation to go through another spring like we had. The economy will be there outside the hospitality sector.

 

[Brennan]

A lockdown won't matter if folks won't follow masking/social distancing guidelines once it is lifted.

Precisely.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I don't understand why certain countries don't bother with it. Especially if they want to open things up again.

The Netherlands has been weirdly unaffected. Short lockdown and masks arent even mandatory there. You even had rich Covid refugees from Antwerp going there when they had their 2 week regional lockdown.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Restaurants and pubs have been coining it in over the summer. They can survive on their profits...certainly the major chains can. The major chains can also afford to contribute to furloughed worker's wages that they employ. Pubs and restaurants and salons and gyms that cant survive are struggling at any rate. These jobs are hanging by a thread at the best of times.

We cant afford for the psyche of the nation to go through another spring like we had. The economy will be there outside the hospitality sector.

Cant make an omelette and all that, hey?

 

[davek]

Cant make an omelette and all that, hey?

Sorry?

 

[davek]

We are not going into a three month lockdown like previously in the the year.

Restrictions will come and go on a regional level and possible a national level if there’s a massive spike.

We need a country to come back. Seems like this is the way of the world now as the economy and jobs start to take importance which is understandable.

There’s a middle ground between full lockdown and herd immunity that needs to be found now.

Two month regional lockdowns; a national lockdown for two months. They are the only choices as I see it.