Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Kenshin]

Holiday goers: a choice
Businesses: how does this affect UK businesses?

Airlines , travel agents.

People suddenly cancelling hits their pockets and non flying aeroplanes hits the company.

We shouldn't be going to countries with high numbers but 66 cases and boom its gone? A country with a total death rate over 5 months that we get in a day?

Someone in work is now going to be affected by that , ridiculous given they were going to a holiday resort anyway so they wouldn't be mixing with people for the whole time they are there, and combined with being ocd since march , makes them relatively safe.

I'm glad I didn't plan to go away this year but if the rules are that strict in regards to travel then why on earth is anyone allowed to travel out the country at all on holiday?

 

[Nymzee]

Airlines , travel agents.

People suddenly cancelling hits their pockets and non flying aeroplanes hits the company.

We shouldn't be going to countries with high numbers but 66 cases and boom its gone? A country with a total death rate over 5 months that we get in a day?

Someone in work is now going to be affected by that , ridiculous given they were going to a holiday resort anyway so they wouldn't be mixing with people for the whole time they are there, and combined with being ocd since march , makes them relatively safe.

I'm glad I didn't plan to go away this year but if the rules are that strict in regards to travel then why on earth is anyone allowed to travel out the country at all on holiday?

Yeh can see those bolded losing out on some cash but at the same time there are still lots and lots of countries people can book holidays/trips to.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And does you not going on these work trips economically affect your business?

In the last two years, it would have had a major impact. This year I've been fortunate enough to find other work to plug those gaps.

 

[Cool_Blue]

I’m getting nervous about our trip to Crete the week after next. Yesterday’s update from a Greek government adviser.........

Professor of Infectious Diseases at the University of Athens and adviser to the Greek government, Nikos Sypsas, speaking about the deteriorating epidemiological situation in the country, stated: “there have been rules, but the problem is that we failed to convince the young people to follow them and they are the main group who are spreading the virus.

So Greece now has the same problem as the rest of us, a group of people who think they’re immune and want to party on as usual. At least the crap weather here is keeping the beaches empty.

 

[Kenshin]

Yeh can see those bolded losing out on some cash but at the same time there are still lots and lots of countries people can book holidays/trips to.

Until they suddenly get added at the last minute. You saw recently with the France (?) One where last minute suddenly gone off the list.

Luckily for the woman in work she has 3 weeks before she was travelling so can rearrange something last minute or cancel entirely if required.

 

[COYBL25]

I’m getting nervous about our trip to Crete the week after next. Yesterday’s update from a Greek government adviser.........

Professor of Infectious Diseases at the University of Athens and adviser to the Greek government, Nikos Sypsas, speaking about the deteriorating epidemiological situation in the country, stated: “there have been rules, but the problem is that we failed to convince the young people to follow them and they are the main group who are spreading the virus.

So Greece now has the same problem as the rest of us, a group of people who think they’re immune and want to party on as usual. At least the crap weather is keeping the beaches empty.

Just use your own common sense mate and you`ll be fine.

Just keep away from places that are packed and carry hand sanitiser with you all the time.

I`ve travelled all over the place in the UK since lockdown lifted, with some very busy holiday places in the mix and I haven`t felt unsafe anywhere tbh.

 

[Nymzee]

In the last two years, it would have had a major impact. This year I've been fortunate enough to find other work to plug those gaps.

Ah self-employed. Guess it depends on what you do.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Ah self-employed. Guess it depends on what you do.

I'm not projecting my own situation more widely though. There was some research from Harvard recently on the scale (and importance) of business travel to the economy (and obviously it's hugely important for the airlines, for whom it accounts for about 60-70% of profits).

 

[Catfish Blues]

It doesn't affect me like but these travel shut downs are getting ridiculous now.

We get so many cases yet a small increase in a country and we aren't allowing travel there?

I get it if it was a sudden 1000 cases somewhere or a consistently high number but 60? 60 cases out of the blue and a whole country is suddenly dangerous to travel to?

Completely ridiculous, all it's doing is screwing over people both business and holiday goers.

Cases have rocketed in Jamaica over the last week or so, they've gone from an average of about five a day to an average of over 50 a day in next to no time. At the moment, their infection rate isn't awful ( it's about the same as Bolton, just down the road ) but the rate of increase is what will be worrying the boffins. They'll likely get that under control quite quickly, but, if they don't, then they could be on a similar track as parts of Spain were not long ago.

Government are damned if they do and damned if they don't here. If infections in Jamaica continue to rise and they have to return to lockdown, but government had given them the thumbs up, then there'd have been people moaning on the internet about why they did nothing.

Look at the situation in Majorca now. When Spain was put back on the quarantine list, infections in the Balearics were low, but they've ramped up now, so, in retrospect, the decision to include the Balearics was the right one. But there'll be times when the opposite is true, maybe that'll be the case with Jamaica, but maybe it won't.

 

[Catfish Blues]

Someone in work is now going to be affected by that , ridiculous given they were going to a holiday resort anyway so they wouldn't be mixing with people for the whole time they are there, and combined with being ocd since march , makes them relatively safe.

Look where it is the world and who goes there ...

After Beating Back the Coronavirus, Jamaica Prioritizes Tourism Over Public Health

Opening its borders to American tourists puts the country’s population at risk.

www.newyorker.com

 

[Nymzee]

I'm not projecting my own situation more widely though. There was some research from Harvard recently on the scale (and importance) of business travel to the economy (and obviously it's hugely important for the airlines, for whom it accounts for about 60-70% of profits).

Yeh, of course, but still lots and lots of countries people can travel to for leisure and business.

 

[Number_25]

I've stepped down from my teaching responsibilities due to the inadequate working conditions I am being asked to put myself in.

 

[Kenshin]

Cases have rocketed in Jamaica over the last week or so, they've gone from an average of about five a day to an average of over 50 a day in next to no time. At the moment, their infection rate isn't awful ( it's about the same as Bolton, just down the road ) but the rate of increase is what will be worrying the boffins. They'll likely get that under control quite quickly, but, if they don't, then they could be on a similar track as parts of Spain were not long ago.

Government are damned if they do and damned if they don't here. If infections in Jamaica continue to rise and they have to return to lockdown, but government had given them the thumbs up, then there'd have been people moaning on the internet about why they did nothing.

Look at the situation in Majorca now. When Spain was put back on the quarantine list, infections in the Balearics were low, but they've ramped up now, so, in retrospect, the decision to include the Balearics was the right one. But there'll be times when the opposite is true, maybe that'll be the case with Jamaica, but maybe it won't.

Apparantly the cases In Jamaica are the other side of the island , not the tourist part, not that it matters too much.

Just given that the virus will just exist then this isn't going to just be a one time thing. Without a vaccine then there really isn't much point in booking a holiday for the foreseeable future given how quickly it can change over just a small case. Especially given that it could change whilst you are there.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I've stepped down from my teaching responsibilities due to the inadequate working conditions I am being asked to put myself in.

Which are?

 

[Catfish Blues]

Without a vaccine then there really isn't much point in booking a holiday for the foreseeable future given how quickly it can change over just a small case. Especially given that it could change whilst you are there.

Yea, and that should have been made much clearer when travel restrictions were initially lifted, but instead we had Boris blustering about getting away on holiday.

I feel a bit for anyone that booked a foreign holiday pre-pandemic or when things were initially opened up, but anyone who's booked since restrictions were imposed on Spain, pretty much have only themselves to blame. You'd have to be incredibly dense not to realise that if restrictions could be imposed on travel to Spain then it could happen anywhere.

If someone books anything now without being able to handle the possibility of a two week quarantine, then they're nuts, and that includes people making new bookings ( as opposed to moving cancellations ) for next year in the hope that a vaccine will be rolled out in the meantime.