Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[PhilM]

Not sure why people aren't being tested and allowed to go on their way. Hundred thousand tests per day and we lock people down on the off chance. Hardly very sophisticated is it?

Because testing on return alone, say at the airport or ferry terminal, could be of very limited value and actually counter-productive to the management of the virus.

For example, you could get off the plane and be tested and come back with a negative result, so the person is relieved and relaxed - I haven't got the virus.

However, the virus may have been in the incubation stage therefore not recognisable on the test; it could have been passed on the very journey back itself.

Personally, I would mandate quarantine on return and a series of tests say within a day of your return and within seven days; if clear on both, you're free to work etc.

We've got the capacity haven't we?

All of these people stuck in France scrabbling around to get home before quarantine hits

Does anybody check that these people are quarantining for 14 days when they get home? Surely people are just going to come back whenever they were scheduled to and then go about their daily lives?

Well, the government said you can be checked up on, but let's be honest we all probably understand that is more of a gesutre of goodwill with the odd checked.

 

[COYBL25]

All of these people stuck in France scrabbling around to get home before quarantine hits

Does anybody check that these people are quarantining for 14 days when they get home? Surely people are just going to come back whenever they were scheduled to and then go about their daily lives?

I suspect this very well may be the case.

My missus has a mate who`s out in Spain with her fella at the mo and they have no intention of self isolating when they get back.

My missus has seen her arse with her and told her in no uncertain terms not to come near us for at least 2 weeks.

This is despite the fact that her elderly dad is in a care home that`s been ravaged by the virus.

The punishments need to be stricter for people like this and if it was up to me they`d be named and shamed too.

 

[navidson]

I suspect this very well may be the case.

My missus has a mate who`s out in Spain with her fella at the mo and they have no intention of self isolating when they get back.

My missus has seen her arse with her and told her in no uncertain terms not to come near us for at least 2 weeks.

This is despite the fact that her elderly dad is in a care home that`s been ravaged by the virus.

The punishments need to be stricter for people like this and if it was up to me they`d be named and shamed too.

There's an easy fix to all of this self-quarantining mess - Close the bloody borders and stop people jetting off/jetting in on holidays that should never have been allowed to be booked in the first place

 

[brieverton]

A near neighbour of mine came back from Spain recently as well and did not self isolate at any point.

I saw him at a petrol station all tanned and turned away from him.

At the weekend he held a birthday party in his house.

 

[tsubaki]

I suspect this very well may be the case.

My missus has a mate who`s out in Spain with her fella at the mo and they have no intention of self isolating when they get back.

My missus has seen her arse with her and told her in no uncertain terms not to come near us for at least 2 weeks.

This is despite the fact that her elderly dad is in a care home that`s been ravaged by the virus.

The punishments need to be stricter for people like this and if it was up to me they`d be named and shamed too.

Talking about punishment is to miss the point though; the quarantine isn’t enforced and given the numbers involved is unenforceable unless the government actually put resources into doing it.

Doing what they’ve been doing and expecting the cops / PHE to do it has blatantly not worked.

 

[Harryflashman]

All of these people stuck in France scrabbling around to get home before quarantine hits

Does anybody check that these people are quarantining for 14 days when they get home? Surely people are just going to come back whenever they were scheduled to and then go about their daily lives?

if you look at people getting surgery they have to be tested , isolate For 14 days then are tested on arrival . Testing isn’t the panacea unfortunately although I certainly see where you’re coming from .

 

[spectateur]

All of these people stuck in France scrabbling around to get home before quarantine hits

Does anybody check that these people are quarantining for 14 days when they get home? Surely people are just going to come back whenever they were scheduled to and then go about their daily lives?

Exactly, how is this quarentining going to be enforced. Pointless threat.

 

[Harryflashman]

Exactly, how is this quarentining going to be enforced. Pointless threat.

it isn’t but they’re relying on people doing what they’re asked and obliged to do Aren’t they ? Like most covid legislation the requirements are on the population as a whole .

 

[roydo]

Exactly, how is this quarentining going to be enforced. Pointless threat.

I find it weird that it needs enforcing. I mean, through no fault of their own, other than needing a holiday after 3 months of doing nothing, they may have been exposed to the virus. So please self isolate to protect people you know. And people you dont.

Thank you.

 

[spectateur]

I find it weird that it needs enforcing. I mean, through no fault of their own, other than needing a holiday after 3 months of doing nothing, they may have been exposed to the virus. So please self isolate to protect people you know. And people you dont.

Thank you.

Yes but as seen with the mask wearing, distancing and avoiding groups, many people are selfish and just don't care.
Unfortunately particularly with the younger section of the population

 

[roydo]

Yes but as seen with the mask wearing, distancing and avoiding groups, many people are selfish and just don't care.
Unfortunately particularly with the younger section of the population

As usual, my experience is the exact opposite of that. Everyone wears a mask, everyone social distances, and everybody is cheerfully resigned to having to do so.

 

[Catfish Blues]

My missus has a mate who`s out in Spain with her fella at the mo and they have no intention of self isolating when they get back.

A near neighbour of mine came back from Spain recently as well and did not self isolate at any point.

I saw him at a petrol station all tanned and turned away from him.

At the weekend he held a birthday party in his house.

The vast majority of people in the country will do the quarantine. I know COYB is from L25, but don't know where you're from Bri. But, for obvious reasons, it might be that there's a larger level of distrust for government on Merseyside than there is in most parts of the country ?

Sadly, if that leads to more people locally breaking the rules, then it could affect friends and neighbours far more than it does anyone in Whitehall. The breakdown in trust and respect between people and government has a lot to answer for and ends up with, as we see on here, people picking holes in guidance and law, when really, it makes more sense to see that it isn't perfect, but it's broadly sensible.

 

[Nymzee]

The vast majority of people in the country will do the quarantine. I know COYB is from L25, but don't know where you're from Bri. But, for obvious reasons, it might be that there's a larger level of distrust for government on Merseyside than there is in most parts of the country ?

Sadly, if that leads to more people locally breaking the rules, then it could affect friends and neighbours far more than it does anyone in Whitehall. The breakdown in trust and respect between people and government has a lot to answer for and ends up with, as we see on here, people picking holes in guidance and law, when really, it makes more sense to see that it isn't perfect, but it's broadly sensible.

I've seen no evidence to suggest this.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I've seen no evidence to suggest this.

You live in Barrow mate.
Inbreds the lot of them.

 

[ToffeeTim]

People knew the risks of heading abroad this summer. I dont have that much sympathy for those who are away just for a holiday and no other reason.