Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Tea_drinker]

Has everyone you know had a test to prove they havnt had it? Cos unless they have, they dont know.

That, in a nutshell, is why caution is still the only way out of this.

You dont even know when you've got it. And it's near on impossible to get hold of a test anyway (in my experience).

 

[roydo]

You dont even know when you've got it. And it's near on impossible to get hold of a test anyway (in my experience).

Quite. But you can spread it with out realising.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Has everyone you know had a test to prove they havnt had it? Cos unless they have, they dont know.

That, in a nutshell, is why caution is still the only way out of this.

To be fair, a degree of perspective is required. If you look globally, while 700,000 people have died, and that's terrible, you also have 11.7 million people who have had the virus confirmed and recovered from it. It's possible I'm looking in the wrong places, but I don't recall ever seeing that figure championed at all, yet it is good news.

 

[Goat]

I'm not trolling. I'm critically evaluating the situation.

In 6 months of this I have heard of noone, not a single person, in anyway connected to me or family or friends who has had this let alone died from it. The rules surrounding it are like the sleeve notes for an incomprehensible Edwardian farce. More longterm misery and death will stem from the results of the lockdown than the virus itself. Look at the death stats over 5 years.

They are my views.

You judge things on your own experience, that's fair.

As you say in 6months I only know 1 person personally who died and that was somebody right at the start, we weren't close, so it wasn't a personal death, but I knew him and spoke to him 2 weeks or so before he died.

He was the same age as me, that was what drove my fears at the start, but now my biggest fear is that my parents are in the age group most at risk.

I don't know how old you are, but my kids have almost the same attitude, they don't know anybody who has had it, anybody who has died, sure a few people died in my daughters home, "but they were old and sick".

So as I say, people are moulded by what they see, we see numbers dropping and we think everything is ok, I venture out more, I see my mum more and then BOOM my daughter is called into work at 9am to have an emergency test due to an outbreak in her home. So now I've waiting 3 days to find out if I need to be concerned.

So yes, I have fears, I don't expect you to care and nor am I asking you to stop having fun, just be slightly less dismissive of people who have concerns when its a virus that doesn't care how old you are or how fat you are.

Anyway, do a few reps for me.

 

[TowerToffee]

I'm not trolling. I'm critically evaluating the situation.

In 6 months of this I have heard of noone, not a single person, in anyway connected to me or family or friends who has had this let alone died from it. The rules surrounding it are like the sleeve notes for an incomprehensible Edwardian farce. More longterm misery and death will stem from the results of the lockdown than the virus itself. Look at the death stats over 5 years.

They are my views.

Well aren't you the lucky one , I hope you can still say that in 6 months

 

[Kenshin]

I'm not trolling. I'm critically evaluating the situation.

In 6 months of this I have heard of noone, not a single person, in anyway connected to me or family or friends who has had this let alone died from it. The rules surrounding it are like the sleeve notes for an incomprehensible Edwardian farce. More longterm misery and death will stem from the results of the lockdown than the virus itself. Look at the death stats over 5 years.

They are my views.

I mentioned this a while back.

People forget that for potentially millions this is the case. Having no exposure to the virus in any way. So the longer it carries on, the more bold the mindset will be.

By all means put precautions in place, limit shops , make us wear a mask etc. But there will be millions who , like you and even me actually, have never seen any sign of this virus. The closest thing I have had was a lad in works auntie dying from it but then it turns out after she died it wasn't covid anyway.

It's so easy to put your own mind forward online and wonder why not everyone else thinks the same as you. I'm not saying I agree with absolutely everything you ever post but others need to I think realise that you aren't alone out there in YOUR experience of this. That people haven't been affected and don't see things the same.

Because you can throw statistics at people all you want on this but the fact of the matter is that they are meaningless if you have no exposure to it.

 

[roydo]

To be fair, a degree of perspective is required. If you look globally, while 700,000 people have died, and that's terrible, you also have 11.7 million people who have had the virus confirmed and recovered from it. It's possible I'm looking in the wrong places, but I don't recall ever seeing that figure championed at all, yet it is good news.

By chance, did you catch that programme last night about the scientists and lab folk who have been working on this scenario for years? Was fantastic, and it would have appealed to your global cooperation views.

 

[Kenshin]

You judge things on your own experience, that's fair.

As you say in 6months I only know 1 person personally who died and that was somebody right at the start, we weren't close, so it wasn't a personal death, but I knew him and spoke to him 2 weeks or so before he died.

He was the same age as me, that was what drove my fears at the start, but now my biggest fear is that my parents are in the age group most at risk.

I don't know how old you are, but my kids have almost the same attitude, they don't know anybody who has had it, anybody who has died, sure a few people died in my daughters home, "but they were old and sick".

So as I say, people are moulded by what they see, we see numbers dropping and we think everything is ok, I venture out more, I see my mum more and then BOOM my daughter is called into work at 9am to have an emergency test due to an outbreak in her home. So now I've waiting 3 days to find out if I need to be concerned.

So yes, I have fears, I don't expect you to care and nor am I asking you to stop having fun, just be slightly less dismissive of people who have concerns when its a virus that doesn't care how old you are or how fat you are.

Anyway, do a few reps for me.

I mean playing the statistics game here, it does apparently care how old or fat you are

Significantly so it seems....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

By chance, did you catch that programme last night about the scientists and lab folk who have been working on this scenario for years? Was fantastic, and it would have appealed to your global cooperation views.

I didn't mate. Is it on iPlayer or something? I know in the WEFs annual global risks report they mentioned the threat of pandemics a few times over the last decade, but the more consistent risk was the lack of global cooperation. Hopefully society will pull its finger out and the twiglet will be voted out this autumn so some bridges can be mended.

 

[Goat]

I mean playing the statistics game here, it does apparently care how old or fat you are

Significantly so it seems....

Well yes.

But there are many outliers.

 

[Kenshin]

Well yes.

But there are many outliers.

But significantly weight , health issues and most importantly age are the big ones.

So the old , the fat and the sick are most at risk.

Which is pretty much expected really for a pandemic.

 

[Goat]

But significantly weight , health issues and most importantly age are the big ones.

So the old , the fat and the sick are most at risk.

Which is pretty much expected really for a pandemic.

Being fat, sick and old is a cause for concern for all aspects of health.

But didn't the 1918 pandemic mainly target the young and healthy?

 

[roydo]

I didn't mate. Is it on iPlayer or something? I know in the WEFs annual global risks report they mentioned the threat of pandemics a few times over the last decade, but the more consistent risk was the lack of global cooperation. Hopefully society will pull its finger out and the twiglet will be voted out this autumn so some bridges can be mended.

Was on Channel 4 last night, 9.00 pm. Bound to be on sommet.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Being fat, sick and old is a cause for concern for all aspects of health.

But didn't the 1918 pandemic mainly target the young and healthy?

To be fair, I suspect a few years of war probably thinned out the 'herd' a fair bit, before the pandemic got into gear.

 

[SteveSC]

Quite. But you can spread it with out realising.

The very point that has been repeated to him over and over again, to which he still doesn't seem to be able to grasp.