Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Billy Dean]

Strange considering far right policies are all about restricting freedoms.

Maybe it's because it's acting in solidarity and helping others

 

[Billy Dean]

Just been watching the news in Germany. Seems it's mostly far right AfD supporters who are moaning about the restrictions.

The demonstrators in the video posted by @Tea_drinker are apparently mostly various conspiracy theorists and far-right cranks either directly from groups like Querdenken 711, AfD, Pegida, Zukunft Deutschland or being radicalised by them online.

 

[spectateur]

So many people do this.
My Mrs even does, certain supermarkets get certain exclusives.
Asda get the Diet Coke with Lime for example, and she loves that with a Bacardi.

What an utter waste of time.

 

[spectateur]

This stuff is really frightening. Is there any hope for humanity?

 

[spectateur]

The cold hard reality is that the vast majority of those dying are people who have been kept alive using modern medicine. If we want a health care system that keeps people alive into their late 80s, 90s and beyond then you have to expect that mother nature will be working on ways to thin the herd.
I know it will be hard to hear but most of those dying are people who's time was naturally up a long time ago. In Ireland the life expectancy is 82 years the average age of death from Covid19 is 84..
It really annoys me when people say things like, "you are saying old people's lives don't matter" because you are failing to look at it from any sort of sane reality, every disease has more of an effect on older people, their bodies are weaker and immune system are weaker, that's just reality.. so saying people are ageist or that they don't believe that old lives don't matter because they comment on how that disease has more of an effect on older people us just pandering to the hypocrisy of the PC brigade. I know my opinion won't be popular here but o don't care, the sad fact is that if we weren't keeping people artificially alive with drugs and modern equipment then this disease wouldn't even have gotten 5 minutes of news time.

And what about compulsory euthanasia at 75?. Think how much money that would save the state. I'm sure that must have been in your thoughts.

 

[The binman chronicles]

This stuff is really frightening. Is there any hope for humanity?

Kind of comforting to see there are stupid people all around the world and not just here and the USA.

Just shows the danger of the internet, they think they've entered a world of free thinking and not what they really are which is conspiracy theorists.

 

[Tipp blue]

And what about compulsory euthanasia at 75?. Think how much money that would save the state. I'm sure that must have been in your thoughts.

Not compulsory euthanasia but certainly euthanasia shouldn't be illegal for terminal patients. I've been called our and abused here for my comment, so I'm assuming that all those calling me out are happy to see people suffer as long as they don't die.. let me tell you something there's worse things than death, too many people think death is the worst thing that can happen a person, it's the worst thing that can happen the family of that person, I do think it's greed that has people feeling that, "I don't want Jimmy to die I'll be very sad leave him there screaming in bed". If you are going to take issue with someone saying its mainly old and weak with multiple underlying conditions then you'll have to hold your hand up and say I'm happy if they don't die regardless of their suffering, if that's your opinion it says alot about you.

 

[Walken]

Not compulsory euthanasia but certainly euthanasia shouldn't be illegal for terminal patients. I've been called our and abused here for my comment, so I'm assuming that all those calling me out are happy to see people suffer as long as they don't die.. let me tell you something there's worse things than death, too many people think death is the worst thing that can happen a person, it's the worst thing that can happen the family of that person, I do think it's greed that has people feeling that, "I don't want Jimmy to die I'll be very sad leave him there screaming in bed". If you are going to take issue with someone saying its mainly old and weak with multiple underlying conditions then you'll have to hold your hand up and say I'm happy if they don't die regardless of their suffering, if that's your opinion it says alot about you.

How your mind has made the jump from not being willing to protect the elderly and weak to being a champion of humanity is really quite remarkable

 

[Toast]

Not compulsory euthanasia but certainly euthanasia shouldn't be illegal for terminal patients. I've been called our and abused here for my comment, so I'm assuming that all those calling me out are happy to see people suffer as long as they don't die.. let me tell you something there's worse things than death, too many people think death is the worst thing that can happen a person, it's the worst thing that can happen the family of that person, I do think it's greed that has people feeling that, "I don't want Jimmy to die I'll be very sad leave him there screaming in bed". If you are going to take issue with someone saying its mainly old and weak with multiple underlying conditions then you'll have to hold your hand up and say I'm happy if they don't die regardless of their suffering, if that's your opinion it says alot about you.

I’m 44 and I should have died in 2008.

That modern medicine eh..

 

[Tipp blue]

How your mind has made the jump from not being willing to protect the elderly and weak to being a champion of humanity is really quite remarkable

What did I say to have you form the opinion that I am not willing to protect the elderly.. everything I said in my comment was fact quote me any part of my comment that's not fact or any part of my comment that I even remotely came close to saying I'm not willing to protect the elderly then I'll withdraw my comment..

 

[Tipp blue]

I’m 44 and I should have died in 2008.

That modern medicine eh..

I never criticised modern medicine, I simply said if we want a health care system that allows people to live into their late 80s 90s and beyond (which we do want).

 

[Toast]

I never criticised modern medicine, I simply said if we want a health care system that allows people to live into their late 80s 90s and beyond (which we do want).

I take lifelong medication, to as you put it, ‘to stop me lying in pain in bed’ everyday.
I do actually get some of the points you are trying to make, even if I don’t agree with them, but I don’t think you are making them very well if I may say so, a bit too black and white. That’s if that phrase is still allowed ffs.

 

[Billy Dean]

 

[spectateur]

Has the death rate dropped because of less infected or is the virus starting to weaken/mutate into a less deadlier strain?

No, it's because the most vulnerable have already been carried away earlier in this pandemic. Fewer infected are dying.

 

[Tipp blue]

I take lifelong medication, to as you put it, ‘to stop me lying in pain in bed’ everyday.
I do actually get some of the points you are trying to make, even if I don’t agree with them, but I don’t think you are making them very well if I may say so, a bit too black and white. That’s if that phrase is still allowed ffs.

Maybe I have been blunt with my comments, I just don't understand how people criticise others who point out the facts and accuse people of being ageist or not caring about elderly.