Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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But the objective is to eventually stop the spread of the virus and in the meantime minimise it. Whether a recipient is high or low vulnerability is beside the point,all infected people are potential spreaders.

Whether the level of infections is lower now is debatable. Here in France the R value has risen to 2.7 in a couple of regions inundated with tourists from Paris and the North and from neighbouring countries.
Fully expecting that down here tbh. Especially as we're starting from a low infection rate of 1 or 2 a week.
 
Because we have seen what can happen if you take your eye off it. I think its clear as a bell that the current strategy is to maximise sensible economic and social interaction, to minimise the inevitable local outbreaks, and to keep these measures in place well into winter.

Like the population in my area is 140,000, and we get 1 or 2 infections a day. Its tiny, and if we social distance, wear a mask in shops, and wash hands, we have a chance of keeping it that way, till it goes away/vaccine is found.
And it can happen really fast too


really good visual here with the rise in Houston compared to how the city was opening up
 
We went to our local supermarket yesterday. I'd say maybe 30% were now wearing masks compared to less that 10% a week ago. Wee weren't wearing 1 but we will from today. I expect the vast majority will be compliant. They're very good down here but there will also be over hundred thousand tourists per week over the next 6 weeks so we'll see

Most of then shops in Polzeath aren’t letting people in without a mask on mate ( other than kids )

Big signs on the door - No mask, no entry.
 
To answer this specifically.

Where I work we all had an antibody test not too long ago. Only a few people came back as postive and all those cases were sick without the typical breathing issues so they had a feeling that was the case.

The idea behind passing it along the chain was fine 4 months ago, there was a real risk of that. Keeping that idea going when cases are dropping is surely still peddling fear? Because if there was still a significant chance of passing on who 3 people later kill someone is then assuming the number of cases are significantly higher than what the figures suggest.

So then that surely creates an image of the country being sicker than it is? Still going by the mindset that everyone you come across is sick no matter what? When does that end?

There is one thing to have these daily figures being high and recognising the risk but then to create a scenario that goes against the figures (which is all we have to go on)? That never ends if you continue to believe that to be the case. It means we all have to assume everyone else is sick and therefore act accordingly, for pretty much forever.

Unless we are all waiting on the government to tell us it's fine, but then we all rebelled against the government telling us exactly that right?

ONS and Public Health England studies have both shown, by swab and antibody tests, that the majority of people infected ( or having antibodies, which isn't necessarily quite the same thing ) never show symptoms.

I mean, in many ways, you're right, there aren't that many people sick with COVID at any one time. Today's ONS survey estimates it's about 1 in 2000. Problem is, left unchecked, that would almost certainly become, say, 1 in 200 in a couple of months. At that point, we'd be back in the [Poor language removed] again. So, until there's reliable treatments, or effective vaccines, some controls will be needed.

I'm no fan of the current government, but either through good advice, or luck, or both, so far the relaxations they've allowed, havn't resulted in a rise of cases or hospitalisations. So they'll likely keep tweaking things until it starts to drive cases up across the country.

Apart from mass participation events ( gigs, games, theatres and clubs ), there's really not much we can't do now, all be it with some mitigation, and one of those mitigations is masks. Based on what's happening in other European countries, it's pretty much a certainty that some combination of relaxations will result in an increase in cases, but we should hopefully be able to deal with it much better than we did originally.
 
Hospital figures - 16 is the announced total, 3 down on yesterday and 2 down on last Friday. All 16 were in English hospitals, 3 down on yesterday and the exact same total as last week with 14 occurring in the past 10 days
 
Kinell Antwerp. Thanks to you I have to wear a mask everywhere for the next 4 weeks.

Knobs.

Twerps surely?

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