Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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One thing regarding the "is it all over" angle, Witty et al were quite clear at the outset of this that any lockdowns have a shelf life, and this shelf life isn't really due to the virus being defeated so much as people having a limit to what they can mentally and financially take. This release of the lockdown seems as much a case of letting people let off some steam while also testing how effective mitigation measures are when the economy is re-opened a bit.
What they said at the outset was that there will be a number of peaks and troughs and that lockdowns would need to be applied again and again.
 
One thing regarding the "is it all over" angle, Witty et al were quite clear at the outset of this that any lockdowns have a shelf life, and this shelf life isn't really due to the virus being defeated so much as people having a limit to what they can mentally and financially take. This release of the lockdown seems as much a case of letting people let off some steam while also testing how effective mitigation measures are when the economy is re-opened a bit.

Who is paying you to say this ?
 
“Major incident” declared in Bournemouth whatever that means, presumably too many people on the beach ?

Sucks to be the police having to tell thousands of people to jog on
 
“Major incident” declared in Bournemouth whatever that means, presumably too many people on the beach ?

Sucks to be the police having to tell thousands of people to jog on

A massive piss up, town overwhelmed, double parking all over the shop. Chaos.

Woman died on a beach, but not sure if that s related to Bournemouth.
 


This is the crux of dealing with the new post-lockdown world.

Government and local authorities cannot on the one hand urge people to stay away and then declare an emergency when people not unsurprisingly test the limits to the hilt and act on individual will.

If there is still a public health emergency, there can't be room for grey areas and the state should continue to lead the response. That doesn't mean letting people as individuals off the hook, on the contrary, but expecting them to act en masse in a co-ordinated fashion and for the common good simply displays nothing other than ignorance of human nature. Most particularly in a situation like this one where what is unfolding today will come as no surprise to anyone.

That's why the deliberate shift in emphasis towards personal responsibility is wrong and potentially very dangerous. I'm not a statist, but you cannot manage a crisis of this nature by anything other than a strong, consistent, and coherent national response. Only then are the weakest and most vulnerable protected.
 
Hospital figures are sub 100 for a 14th consecutive date, 65 was the announced figure today, one up on yesterday but 12 down on last Thursday, bringing the 7 day rolling average down to 51.71. Of this total, 55 were in English hospitals, up 4 on yesterday but 7 down on last week with 53 happening in the past 10 days

The all settings figure for the day is 149, down 5 on yesterday but up 12 on last week, bringing the 7 day rolling average down to 119.29
 
This is the crux of dealing with the new post-lockdown world.

Government and local authorities cannot on the one hand urge people to stay away and then declare an emergency when people not unsurprisingly test the limits to the hilt and act on individual will.

If there is still a public health emergency, there can't be room for grey areas and the state should continue to lead the response. That doesn't mean letting people as individuals off the hook, on the contrary, but expecting them to act en masse in a co-ordinated fashion and for the common good simply displays nothing other than ignorance of human nature. Most particularly in a situation like this one where what is unfolding today will come as no surprise to anyone.

That's why the deliberate shift in emphasis towards personal responsibility is wrong and potentially very dangerous. I'm not a statist, but you cannot manage a crisis of this nature by anything other than a strong, consistent, and coherent national response. Only then are the wekest and most vulnerable protected.

Can't stop laughing that its major an incident, what on earth did the Government expect after Johnson address. Honest to god. Not sure who is more stupid those at the beach or the Government. lol
 
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