Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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if I may don my tinfoil hat for a moment.
given the counting a pair of gloves as 2 pieces of ppe and my general mistrust of the current figures is the following beyond the realms of plausibility?

A death tests positive for COVID and say pneumonia, could a decision be made to mark some of them as pure pneumonia to massage the figures?
And now my sinister tinfoil hat...do you reckon that someone in the govt had calculated the savings on state pensions, freeing up the housing market, death taxes, etc due to aged deaths?
 
if I may don my tinfoil hat for a moment.
given the counting a pair of gloves as 2 pieces of ppe and my general mistrust of the current figures is the following beyond the realms of plausibility?

A death tests positive for COVID and say pneumonia, could a decision be made to mark some of them as pure pneumonia to massage the figures?
And now my sinister tinfoil hat...do you reckon that someone in the govt had calculated the savings on state pensions, freeing up the housing market, death taxes, etc due to aged deaths?

I half suspect Cummings will be inspired by that dummy with his face on at the Aussie rugby league match and fill stadia up and down the land with stuffed grannies and grandads to provide some atmosphere. We'll get the ones that boo, obviously.
 
People (particularly the young) have given up a lot for this lockdown and they now clearly know that the government havent had a clue and have just strung them along for months. With this realisation kicking in hard now expect to see more and more parties, raves and kick offs. Faith in the lockdown began to crumble with Cummings little trip.
 
A death tests positive for COVID and say pneumonia, could a decision be made to mark some of them as pure pneumonia to massage the figures?

That would need massive collusion between the state and doctors, or the state and registrars or the state and the ONS. If I thought any if those were likely, I'm not sure I'd bother getting out of bed.

End of the day, there'd still be excess deaths, so unless the ONS were fiddling the numbers, it'd be obvious something was amiss. Also, pneumonia deaths are dropping.

And now my sinister tinfoil hat...do you reckon that someone in the govt had calculated the savings on state pensions, freeing up the housing market, death taxes, etc due to aged deaths?

Someone said the same on another forum, specifically on pension costs
If you like, I'll dig out the response, but essentially, the costs of the furlough scheme alone massively dwarf any savings on pensions and ongoing healthcare.

Additionally, COVID has hit the poor disproportionally, so, with inheritance tax only kicking in at 325k for single people, and 650k for couples, very little cash will be raised from an extra 60 to 70k deaths. Even if it was 100k per person, that's only 6.5 Billion, and most people will be under the threshold, so it's likely to be much less.
 
One thing regarding the "is it all over" angle, Witty et al were quite clear at the outset of this that any lockdowns have a shelf life, and this shelf life isn't really due to the virus being defeated so much as people having a limit to what they can mentally and financially take. This release of the lockdown seems as much a case of letting people let off some steam while also testing how effective mitigation measures are when the economy is re-opened a bit.
 
Sorry for being off topic but thought others might also be interested in this encouraging news that will hopefully lead to further successful trials


Instinctively I think we're a little way off seeing CRISPR used at any kind of scale, purely due to the ethical minefield it operates in. Our good friends the Chinese have perhaps not helped in that regard after He Jiankui did what he did.
 
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