Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There is quite a bit of data from China.

But the disease is still in its early stages so hard to know for certain and it is one hell of a gamble to go down that road rather than say trying the S Korean/Singapore approach first.

At first I was big on reading up the statistics on this thing but the more you do the more you realise its largely guess work/non specific.

A good example is in France 300 people are in intensive care in which half are under 60 years of age.

Sounds frightening but the other half under 60 could largely be 58/59 year olds with heart disease, asthma etc.

I think we just have to weather the storm and hope the scientists make a breakthrough.
 
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It’s becoming clear that hundreds of thousands are going to die.

It’s a grim reality, but it is reality. Any decision which any government makes will not change this fact. The only way to prevent widespread death from this virus would be entering strict household isolation for several months in every country with no air travel. Unfortunately the infrastructure doesn’t exist and never has.

I‘m not so sure of that. I’ve no doubt that millions will get it, but since last November we have had no end of flu like symptoms hitting us. My guess is that many of us have already had this thing and got past it while assuming we had whatever strain of flu was doing the rounds. There may well be thousands who die, but probably not the six figure sums you mention.....no one knows of course, and we are all just giving our own viewpoints, but I hope I am right and you are wrong.....
 
If people havn't seen it, the following thread's worth a read, if only to see the rationale behind the government's thinking.

Whether that thinking is right or not, nobody knows, and won't do for some time.


Go figure Tory Conservative Government takes high risk strategy that risks the lives of the most vulnerable. Prefer it when they are just selling off my Grandpa's shirt.
 
At first I was big on reading up the statistics on this thing but the more you do the more you realise its largely guess work/non specific.

A good example is in France 300 people are in intensive care in which half are under 60 years of age.

Sounds frightening but the other half under 60 could largely be 59 year olds for example with heart disease, asthma etc.

I think we just have to weather the storm and hope the scientists make a breakthrough.
Basically agree for the first three sentences (I’m a nerd so like looking up stats!), it is the bolded bit of fourth where we disagree.

I don’t get the rush to infect a lot of the population who will have those vulnerabilities - at least until other methods like widespread testing/contact and social distancing are tried.

Cross fingers on the last bit though!
 
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I‘m not so sure of that. I’ve no doubt that millions will get it, but since last November we have had no end of flu like symptoms hitting us. My guess is that many of us have already had this thing and got past it while assuming we had whatever strain of flu was doing the rounds. There may well be thousands who die, but probably not the six figure sums you mention.....no one knows of course, and we are all just giving our own viewpoints, but I hope I am right and you are wrong.....
Complete guesswork isn’t mate, all I know is i have never known government responses like this in my lifetime...
 
but since last November we have had no end of flu like symptoms hitting us. My guess is that many of us have already had this thing and got past it while assuming we had whatever strain of flu was doing the rounds

Very unlikely that scenario mate.

If those bugs going round ( and I had a kin awful cough for over two weeks from one of them ) were COVID-19, we'd have expected to see a corresponding rise in hospitalisations and deaths as a result - which, despite the headlines over the winter, didn't really happen.
 
There is quite a bit of data from China.

But the disease is still in its early stages so hard to know for certain and it is one hell of a gamble to go down that road rather than say trying the S Korean/Singapore approach first.

The Spanish flu had three effective outbreaks, the second was the most deadly after the initial outbreak had died. No one knows if this doesn’t follow a similar path, which would mean China having further outbreaks.....that’s why this herd immunity could be crucial......
 
Don't think it is tbh - or at least 6 months without it won't kill anyone.

Not quite. Close down secondary schools by all means, as the kids can stay at home and look after themselves, but primary schools must stay open to allow mums and dads to remain in key jobs. The Children’s education is irrelevant, we just move everything back by half a year......
 
Basically agree for the first three sentences (I’m a nerd so like looking up stats!), it is the bolded bit of fourth where we disagree.

I don’t get the rush to infect a lot of the population who will have those vulnerabilities - at least until other methods like widespread testing/contact and social distancing are tried.

Cross fingers on the last bit though!

I assume one thing on the Governments mind will be the failures to find vaccines for other forms of coronavirus - simply put if a vaccine isnt found and this stops around similiarly to the common cold/flu it makes more sense to "assume" that its one that over time it will pass through the majority of the population as the former two do every year.

We should have closed the borders as soon as China had problems but we let the horse bolt the doors now its either try contain it or hope that we can build immunity to it - neither strategy at this stage is a guaranteed success or failure hence why im not letting it worry me - I'll be going the pub tomorrow for a quick pint to get away from the house - no point worrying yourself sick of something you have zero control over.
 
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