Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Barnfred 55]

I think it might be better maybe like you say stagger it, I would say maybe years 7/8/9 with reduced classroom capacity for a week whilst years 10/11 have home schooling then reverse it the week later years 10/11 in school and years 7/8/9 at home. A knock on affect of this though is childcare as a lot of parents need their kids in school to be able to work.

The youngest of these kids must be 11 right? Going upto 16. What age do you think it's ok to leave them unsupervised?

I don't have kids but I'd have thought around 12/13 and possibly younger if you have really sensible kids

 

[bullybeef]

We need to try find a way to ban or euphanize you.

Well that’s not very nice.

but like my post, I presume it’s tongue in cheek!

 

[orchard]

Imagine the history students of the future, 50 years from now, having to study how Britain handled Brexit and the Coronavirus !

The teacher will sound like a stand up comedian.

It would be like explaining how certain societies once believed in witches and witch-doctors.

 

[JLW]

The youngest of these kids must be 11 right? Going upto 16. What age do you think it's ok to leave them unsupervised?

I don't have kids but I'd have thought around 12/13 and possibly younger if you have really sensible kids

Sorry mate what do you mean unsupervised? You mean leave at home for home schooling while parents go to work?

 

[Barnfred 55]

Sorry mate what do you mean unsupervised? You mean leave at home for home schooling while parents go to work?

Yeah. On their own in the house with no responsible adult there.

I'm not trying to trip you up. We don't have kids so don't know what's acceptable there days

 

[JLW]

Yeah. On their own in the house with no responsible adult there.

I'm not trying to trip you up. We don't have kids so don't know what's acceptable there days

That’s a fair point! I wouldn’t leave my 11 year old at home for hours even though she’s sensible and would be fine but I simply wouldn’t be able to relax.
I would say that if I did leave her home I would be more confident of her doing her homework at 11 years of than when she is 14/15 because that’s the point they think they know more than you!

Just to add that might have to be a situation a lot of people have to do so they can get back to work to pay the bills.

 

[Brennan]

Kids not going back until next September is not possible. To allow children to miss a year and a half of proper schooling would be condemning them to disadvantage for the rest of their lives.

Home schooling isn’t an option for the vast majority either once the furlough scheme goes away. I would wager that most kids currently being home schooled are doing so under supervision of one or more parents who are furloughed, not working from home.

The brutal reality is that if a vaccine isn’t discovered soon and the virus doesn’t diminish naturally then some level of death will have to be accepted to return the world to some form of normality. What that level is will be up for debate.

To put this in some perspective, we have 450 deaths every day just from cancer in the UK.

 

[orchard]

Kids not going back until next September is not possible. To allow children to miss a year and a half of proper schooling would be condemning them to disadvantage for the rest of their lives.

Home schooling isn’t an option for the vast majority either once the furlough scheme goes away. I would wager the most kids currently being home schooled are doing so under supervision of one or more parents who are furloughed, not working from home.

The brutal reality is that if a vaccine isn’t discovered soon and the virus doesn’t diminish naturally then some level of death will have to be accepted to return OUR MISMANAGED COUNTRY to some form of normality. What that level is will be up for debate.

Fixed

 

[davek]

Kids not going back until next September is not possible. To allow children to miss a year and a half of proper schooling would be condemning them to disadvantage for the rest of their lives.

Home schooling isn’t an option for the vast majority either once the furlough scheme goes away. I would wager the most kids currently being home schooled are doing so under supervision of one or more parents who are furloughed, not working from home.

The brutal reality is that if a vaccine isn’t discovered soon and the virus doesn’t diminish naturally then some level of death will have to be accepted to return the world to some form of normality. What that level is will be up for debate.

Nonsense.

School age in Scandinavia starts at age 7. Are they being condemned to disadvantage for the rest of their lives?

Yeah, let's open schools up and un-furlough their parents and go with higher death rates.

That's as irresponsible as those divvies ignoring social distancing in their thousands.

 

[Nymzee]

Personally I think kids can miss like 3 years of secondary school and be fine you learn jack all anyway.

 

[davek]

Fixed

I'd like to hear @Brennan's initial figure of acceptable deaths to open his "debate". 500,000, 1 million...2 million?

 

[Brennan]

Nonsense.

School age in Scandinavia starts at age 7. Are they being condemned to disadvantage for the rest of their lives?

Yeah, let's open schools up and un-furlough their parents and go with higher death rates.

That's as irresponsible as those divvies ignoring social distancing in their thousands.

The post being referenced was discussing Year 8s, not 5 and 6 year olds.

 

[Brennan]

Nonsense.

School age in Scandinavia starts at age 7. Are they being condemned to disadvantage for the rest of their lives?

Yeah, let's open schools up and un-furlough their parents and go with higher death rates.

That's as irresponsible as those divvies ignoring social distancing in their thousands.

Also, you really make it too easy when all I have to do is go on Wikipedia to prove you’re chatting cobblers.

In Finland, high class daycare and nursery-kindergarten are considered critical for developing the cooperation and communication skills important to prepare young children for lifelong education, as well as formal learning of reading and mathematics. This preparatory period lasts until the age of 7.

Early childhood education is not mandatory in Finland, but is used by almost everyone. “We see it as the right of the child to have daycare and pre-school,” explained Eeva Penttilä, of Helsinki's Education Department. “It’s not a place where you dump your child when you’re working. It’s a place for your child to play and learn and make friends.

The focus for kindergarten students is to “learn how to learn”, Ms. Penttilä said. Instead of formal instruction in reading and math there are lessons on nature, animals, and the “circle of life” and a focus on materials- based learning.[18] It is strongly believed that when children develop learning to learn as a life skill and see the real life applications of the knowledge they gather, they will become lifelong learners

What are you on about

 

[Brennan]

I'd like to hear @Brennan's initial figure of acceptable deaths to open his "debate". 500,000, 1 million...2 million?

There’s quite a lot of numbers between 0 and 500,000.

 

[davek]

The post being referenced was discussing Year 8s, not 5 and 6 year olds.

Same difference. The time can be made up for when kids have more maturity / greater capacity to develop at a later age. We're not asking them to be turningup for school age 18 or 19. A Pandemic will last a couple of years maximum. It's not an existential threat. In any case, schooling is mostly about socialisation. The skills required for the employment market can be learned anywhere.

There's only one argument that's ever warranted serious consideration concerning school repopening: nutrition. Some kids not attending school will go malnourished. Tackle that and it's not an issue.