Begs the question who was doing it up until this point?
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Begs the question who was doing it up until this point?
orchard
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His alter-ego - the failing door-to-door fascia salesman forced to sleep in his car because of 'family troubles'. We'll have the real deal now with spectacles, and he'll refrain from ruffling his hair.
You probably don't want that mental image in your brain.
Depends what banding they are on. Pay is capped so regardless of banding if you are band 5 you'll hit a ceiling (albeit faster under AFC).
If you're a band 7 nurse, which is usually a practitioner, then your pay well be pretty good as you are undertaking some tasks that might be expected of a doctor - diagnosis and assessment etc, band 8 nurses are likely to be the chief nurse (so not common). It will take someone around 8 years to reach the top band 7 banding which is around 45000 (not weighted).
I expect you are well aware of this, just adding to the general understanding.
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I love the idea that a dishonest PM, unable to lie convincingly to the public anymore, would moonlight as a salesman to find an outlet for it.
Oh for sure, it will, of course, vary. Just saying that the lifestyle issues that result in many of the comorbidities are unlikely to be caused by poverty, as staff of that age are likely to be paid reasonably well. One thing the article I referenced earlier doesn't appear to mention is how many of the fatalities were people returning to the profession after retirement. There have certainly been a few doctors mentioned in the press that fall into that camp, and you would presume they would be instantly vulnerable (for various reasons, probably few related to their ethnicity).
mccole
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To delay the BAME figures again when they know it will light the touch paper on protests around the country of the deaths of "un-skilled" workers who are propping up the NHS.
Where is the Labour Party and other political parties on this and the Russian investigation just goes to show we are really pathetic as a country.
Where is the Labour Party and other political parties on this and the Russian investigation just goes to show we are really pathetic as a country.
Barnfred 55
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Dominic Cummings
Do you think now is the right time to be triggering mass protests seeing as we have a virus ripping through the country killing people ?
Those who would then suffer the most would be inner city health workers who are largely BAME...
I wondered that myself , there was a report the other day in here I think where doctors in Italy reckoned the cases they were
Now seeing were not as potent as previously seen.
brieverton
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I saw a report on this myself. The interviewee is considered to be amongst the better of the public health experts in Italy. He said what had changed significantly there is the much reduced amount of the viral load when the virus is transmitted from one person to another. I guess it seems obvious that the less virus aerosol being breathed in, the better the chances a person will either develop no symptoms or a milder illness.
This might be due to increased summer temperatures also so cannot be taken as a sign that things are taking a definite turn for the better but its encouraging.
The report, while it pulls on a range of different studies/data is interesting as a curiosity, it doesn't really do much to address the causes or scratch the surface of 'why'.
It's a presentation of other research - so study 1 is about someone living in depravation, in cities, with overcrowding, in poor accomodation, doing jobs which expose them to higher risks...well there you go.
It then proposes, alongside study 1, that known comorbidities are attributable to higher deaths among those with minority ethnicities.
Perfectly reasonable in themselves but, the link between the two isn't explained. It invites a conclusion which is in the interpretation of the reader rather than the author. Ultimately it gives me nothing to influence any working strategy as to how you might seek to reduce the factors that contribute to increased mortality and infection.
Edit: Although there is the promise of further study so perhaps it will arrive there.
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davek
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Ha Ha Ha.No, how dare 'you' cast unfounded aspersions on the entire NHS.
Exclusive: BME nurses 'feel targeted' to work on Covid-19 wards
The Covid-19 outbreak is putting a stark lens on the inequalities faced by nurses from black and minority ethnic (BME) backgrounds, according to awww.nursingtimes.net
In the same article that clearly states that no actual evidence exists of any discrimination, they also clearly explain that vulnerability has no genetic basis, but rather that the kind of unhealthy lifestyles that lead to more comorbidities are more likely.
But no, you have to wang in with class bullshit, as that's the only trick you have, like an Indian doctor is poor, or an old Jamaican nurse, who is likely to be band 5 or 6 due to their age, is on the breadline. You have no bloody clue, as usual, yet carry on like you're the expert on everything. The reason you don't move abroad is because you fundamentally lack the self awareness to do so.
You cant even analyse your own evidence. Dear me, your stock is at an all time low.
But at least you confirm above with that blizzard of BS what I said about genetic 'difference' having no basis for the unequal experience of health workers on Covid.
As for stuff like diabetes and heart disease: they are driven almost exclusively by socio-economic factors and cultural norms. in terms of Sickle Cell, although it's a disease that is associated with black people it's incidence is felt more by people who live in low-income countries and with poor socio-economic status. It's down to class every time. It underlies every major discrimination, and Covid is no different. Sorry if that upsets your delicate sensibilities, but it just does.
And despite what the Nursing Times says, there is clear evidence from ethnic groups within the health service, such as Filipinos, that they are played on by team leaders and trust bureacrats and disproportionatley have faced the worst of the frontline effort in this crisis. https://rcni.com/nursing-standard/n...rd-costing-filipino-nurses-their-lives-160221
They are the sub-class within the working class in the NHS and they suffered the consequences for their low status.
In short: you're wrong. Again.
mccole
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I think as a government they should address matters of urgency, urgently!
It's never a good time to announce that people of colour are dying and we don't care or provide enough PPE to attempt to protect them.
If they came out with the figures and plan, it would help stop a lot of their problems but just like the lower classes, this government doesn't care.
They have organised this virus to rip through this country with non-scientific methods which has killed thousands, they are covering up their messes (not very well I should add) with f-up after f-up, they have broken their own rulings with Cummings and miscommunicated on purpose to fuel their Herd Mentally method.
So why cover it up without help and actively knowing that people are dying which in the long run is more horrific then not giving a F plus they'll try their best to try and ship them off after they have used them.
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