Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Jebus_lives]

"Matt HanCOCK says"

Is there ever a more impelling reason to switch off and completely ignore what's being reported when it's trailed by that phrase?

Matt HanCOCK said we'd all have pin prick testing kits we could order from amazon and Boots; Matt HanCOCK said PPE was well taken care of; Matt HanCOCK said that 100,000 people per day would be tested every day.

His name is a byword for failure and deceit.

Chris Grayling confirmed?

Boris Johnson assured?

Everton are close to agreeing...

 

[peteblue]

Damn, he`s good, it didn`t even enter my head, that he`d blame the British Government lol

Tbf, no one could have foreseen the Government getting the blame.....

 

[ramacca]

BAME NHS staff members felt "systemic discrimination" put them at higher risk

 

[davek]

BAME NHS staff members felt "systemic discrimination" put them at higher risk

This is why I recoiled from viewing the BAME figures as 'genetic' difference; it was always a cover for the real story of discrimination.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

This is why I recoiled from viewing the BAME figures as 'genetic' difference; it was always a cover for the real story of discrimination.

You have no idea.

 

[davek]

You have no idea.

I have no idea if discrimnation in the NHS exists, or that it's likely to have been THE underlying reason for the greater dath rate of BAME employees?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I have no idea if discrimnation in the NHS exists, or that it's likely to have been THE underlying reason for the greater dath rate of BAME employees?

Either.

 

[davek]

Either.

How dare you.

 

[carlos21]

Either.

Hi Bruce you want to come off I will look after this site there is no problem with me.

 

[carlos21]

Either.

What you think mate.

 

[Jimishorts]

I think we can all agree, they need to open the barbers.

@roydo has got a new pair of clippers he needs to give a test drive.

 

[zzr45]

I have no idea if discrimnation in the NHS exists, or that it's likely to have been THE underlying reason for the greater dath rate of BAME employees?

Where are BAME employees more likely to work? Densely populated cities or hospitals in rural areas less affected by COVID?

Why did 50% feel that underlying health reasons were likely the reason for the increased death rate, as opposed to the 20% that felt it was discrimination, which was actually encountered by 5%?

What evidence is there that genetics doesn’t play a role?

 

[ramacca]

This is why I recoiled from viewing the BAME figures as 'genetic' difference; it was always a cover for the real story of discrimination.

It's not 'genetic'. This was one of the things that stood out for me from the report,

"However, an analysis of over 10,000 patients with COVID-19 admitted to intensive care in UK hospitals suggests that, once age, sex, obesity and comorbidities are taken into account, there is no difference in the likelihood of being admitted to intensive care or of .dying between ethnic groups (17)

This was for people who actually made it to intensive care. There is no statistics for those that were not admitted to intensive care and/or hospital. Could be that a higher proportion of ethnic minorities died elsewhere and not in hospital.

 

[davek]

Where are BAME employees more likely to work? Densely populated cities or hospitals in rural areas less affected by COVID?

Why did 50% feel that underlying health reasons were likely the reason for the increased death rate, as opposed to the 20% that felt it was discrimination, which was actually encountered by 5%?

What evidence is there that genetics doesn’t play a role?

Where's the evidence it does?

Traditionally it's a basket of factors in social deprivation that underlay a persons (and persons) health and well being. Why should we have deviated from that established way of viewing disproportionate poor health from anything that's cropped up during the period of this virus?

You have the floor....

 

[davek]

It's not 'genetic'. This was one of the things that stood out for me from the report,

"However, an analysis of over 10,000 patients with COVID-19 admitted to intensive care in UK hospitals suggests that, once age, sex, obesity and comorbidities are taken into account, there is no difference in the likelihood of being admitted to intensive care or of .dying between ethnic groups (17)

This was for people who actually made it to intensive care. There is no statistics for those that were not admitted to intensive care and/or hospital.

It's class that determines these things. It just so happens that there are more BAME people at the base of society and have fewer senior posts or jobs in well paid salubrious surroundings.

It ALWAYS comes down to class.