Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Blueclouds]

Mate, I think we could take that question stem 'Shouldn't we...' and apply it to many different questions regarding today's removal or loosing of restrictions.

Today you've got schools going back, those shielding allowed out, more people going back to work (including public transport) and more larger socialising.

I simply can't fathom how they will successfully (or at best easily) use the tracking and tracing system, when it's not ready, to identify and isolate the causes.

The sensible option would have been staggered to ease the tracers in and it would allow them to see which part (and how much) of the easing contributed to a rise.

Instead, it's almost like, "Here we go..." and play some Russian roulette. Bellends!

Especially when the contract and tracing team.is still in the infant stage and no way ready to deal with the incoming mass influx.

 

[roydo]

As soon as it's humanly possible to leave Britain, I will. It's a cesspit. We all know it.

No you wont.

 

[PhilM]

Especially when the contract and tracing team.is still in the infant stage and no way ready to deal with the incoming mass influx.

Add to that, how's the app doing (a rhetorical question) and testing data is still used inconsistently at best.

 

[davek]

Imagine you're shielding and all over the weekend you've watched your telly and you've witnessed hundreds of thousands of spanners sitting on beaches (and throwing themselves off cliffs), congregating for parties in their gardens, 15 abreast in localparks walking their staffies, sitting in traffic jams of hundreds of cars with soft tops down and windows wide open...you'd see that as a safe environment to go out into like wouldn't you?

How cruel can a government get that they'd, out of the blue, try and tempt out of their safety vulnerable people with all that going on AND infection rates high AND with no working track and trace system in place.

They all should be swinging from a rope.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I think there's been a bit of confusion based on the government's initial guidelines (the numbered system) suggested they'd be allowed when at level one.

Aren't we at level four or three? I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed out to exercise, but the whole advice does feel a bit ad hoc and inconsistent.

As @JEBUS_LIVES mentions, whether they should or should not go to work or can they be forced to is a bit of a grey area where some will exploit,.

All what you say is true mate, but there's never been anything in the guidelines to explicity stop those being shielding going to work. The details are at https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...rk-and-employment-for-those-who-are-shielding

but, in a nutshell it's

• Work from home if you can or
• Employer furloughs you or
• Change your working patterns to make them safe or
• Get a sick note

For some people, hopefully very few, they will have continued to work because 80% of their pay wasn't enough for basic needs or, going off sick meant being on stat sick pay ... and that situation doesn't change.

In terms of employment and shielding, the bigger problem will occur when employers are asked to start contributing to furlough costs, but even then, most decent employers will hopefully do right by their shielding staff.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

@orchard

Here's a prime example:

It's quite incredible how things have gone so wrong so quickly. It seems they're making bad decision after bad decision at the moment.

 

[thirdmantackle]

Because they don't actually care

 

[davek]

You've obviously made the wrong life-choices and didn't end up with a chunk of the Cotswolds.

64,000 people killed in 3 months.

Never in a million years would I have believed that the people of this country would react to a government induced catastrophe like that and responded by taking themselves off down the beach to lie in the sun all day and chatting 'kin nonsense with another bunch of sheep.

You get the government you deserve. I feel no sense of belonging to Britain. None. The government and people have proven in the last couple of weeks just how broken this society is. Look at the difference elsewhere in Europe. We are 'kin shameful as a nation. A pariah state populated by consumerist zombies.

 

[Harryflashman]

Imagine you're shielding and all over the weekend you've watched your telly and you've witnessed hundreds of thousands of spanners sitting on beaches (and throwing themselves off cliffs), congregating for parties in their gardens, 15 abreast in localparks walking their staffies, sitting in traffic jams of hundreds of cars with soft tops down and windows wide open...you'd see that as a safe environment to go out into like wouldn't you?

How cruel can a government get that they'd, out of the blue, try and tempt out of their safety vulnerable people with all that going on AND infection rates high AND with no working track and trace system in place.

They all should be swinging from a rope.

I think the government have seriously mishandled this whole thing but they aren’t ordering them out are they ? Plus it’s not like mad max thunderdome out there , it’s clearly a dangerous time particularly for the vulnerable but you make it sound like unless it’s you on your Daily bike rides everyone leaving the house people are either scum or about you die .

Finally for an avowed socialist are you completely comfortable with the way you’re dismissing large sections of society with their ‘staffies ‘ and the other day talking about stuffing their faces with ‘Greggs ‘ ? It’s the kind of language we see from the countryside living tories dismissing those that live in the cities ,actually in this thread . if it was me I’d wonder about the company I was keeping and the language I was using .

 

[Charro]

Imagine you're shielding and all over the weekend you've watched your telly and you've witnessed hundreds of thousands of spanners sitting on beaches (and throwing themselves off cliffs), congregating for parties in their gardens, 15 abreast in localparks walking their staffies, sitting in traffic jams of hundreds of cars with soft tops down and windows wide open...you'd see that as a safe environment to go out into like wouldn't you?

How cruel can a government get that they'd, out of the blue, try and tempt out of their safety vulnerable people with all that going on AND infection rates high AND with no working track and trace system in place.

They all should be swinging from a rope.

What is this world you live in?

I went out at the weekend, to the park and it was great. Plenty of space between people and everyone adhering to the guidelines.

If someone who has been shielding for ten weeks and not left the house asked me if it was safe to go the park I’d say yes. It’ll probably do them some good and they’ll be grateful for it.

You paint a world of complete chaos and it isn’t like that when I go out.

 

[roydo]

What is this world you live in?

I went out at the weekend, to the park and it was great. Plenty of space between people and everyone adhering to the guidelines.

If someone who has been shielding for ten weeks and not left the house asked me if it was safe to go the park I’d say yes. It’ll probably do them some good and they’ll be grateful for it.

You paint a world of complete chaos and it isn’t like that when I go out.

Same here. The new Normal.

 

[davek]

It's quite incredible how things have gone so wrong so quickly. It seems they're making bad decision after bad decision at the moment.

Try since the turn of the year. No preparation for Covid19's impending impact, no attempt to close the door on it early. That's why we're here now. The decisions made in the last two weeks are so bad are as a result of that initial early failure.

 

[coollino]

Happy no more virus day.

 

[Harryflashman]

What is this world you live in?

I went out at the weekend, to the park and it was great. Plenty of space between people and everyone adhering to the guidelines.

If someone who has been shielding for ten weeks and not left the house asked me if it was safe to go the park I’d say yes. It’ll probably do them some good and they’ll be grateful for it.

You paint a world of complete chaos and it isn’t like that when I go out.

its busy out there but people have been locked in their house for weeks , many of these people traditional labour supporters with no gardens to speak of and trying to break the monotony and enjoy a little sun . Most people I see are respecting the guidelines and certainly aren’t worthy of much of the abuse being tipped on them particularly by people who are out and about and opining about the madness of people daring to be out and about as they cycle by .

 

[orchard]

Happy no more virus day.

Gonna vote Tory again next election, the way they bossed them traffic light things over the weekend was AMAZEBALL