Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Robert, the fiddler for his mates, Jenrick is an imbecile.

Jenrick said:




Really Mr Fiddler? March 25th.

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  1,452 new cases and 186 new deaths in the United Kingdom. Deaths include a 21-year-old woman and a 47-year-old man with no pre-existing health conditions [source] [source] [source] [source] [source]

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• 1,604 new cases and 215 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

The only maths he's good at, is working out how much his mates can fiddle Tower Hamlets out of £40 million.

Call for inquiry into why senior Tory helped donor avoid £40m ...
www.theguardian.com › politics › may › call-for-inquir...

Cabinet Office asked to look into Robert Jenrick’s unlawful approval of property project

I'd love to agree with you, because Jenrick's a talentless politician, but, on infections, he's right. Back on March 25th, there were no pillar 2 tests taking place, so all those 1452 cases you quote, are pillar 1.

Pillar one postive tests yesterday were 869, substantially less than at the beginning, and deaths lag infections by some distance, so aren't a sensible measure of infection rates on any given day.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

 

[COYBL25]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

He’s just gone out for a bike ride, he’ll report back on the amount of MURDERING SCUM he encountered on the road in due course.

 

[Brennan]

Midday in a Central Park in North London, loads of space and people just sat in twos or threes, one group of five having a picnic.

It’s not the end of days....

 

[spectateur]

Simples really herd immunity won't happen if vulnerable sheilding people stay locked up. Get COVID done! Thousands more will die but think of the Great British Economy. Then we can continue with Get Brexit done!

Love Boris and Dom xx

OK then, as long as you and your family and friends are not included.

 

[Charro]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

That should tell Dave just how wide of the mark his posts are.

 

[roydo]

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Midday in a Central Park in North London, loads of space and people just sat in twos or threes, one group of five having a picnic.

It’s not the end of days....

To be fair, that looks like a pretty average to poor park.

 

[Barnfred 55]

That’s clearly stupid but really it’s a separate point.

In the current environment going outside once per day with the person you live with and observing social distancing places you at little or no increased risk.

The greatest risk those shielded people face is those who they live with, and that continues to be the case.

Plus the risk of mental illness from being cooped up.

My brother is going through chemo. He has been breaking his own lockdown during this nice weather by walking 400 metres to his daughters house. She has a big garden and whilst he's there she and the kids stay inside and socially distance. He does this a couple of times a week for about an hour. The increased risk to him is negligible and just getting out of the house is a big boost to him mentally. Why not is my view. He'll be able to do it legally now and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To be fair, that looks like a pretty average to poor park.

North London innit

 

[Barnfred 55]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

Think I'd be asking for a slap just to make sure I'm awake

 

[Amw79]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

I usually have to pop into the Keir Starmer thread to pick up the good vibes of the ‘Pete and Dave love-in’, happily it’s now spilling over into other threads. Must be the hot weather.

 

[Harryflashman]

Pete and Dave are agreeing. Can someone hold me?

probably quite illustrative about the posts in question

 

[Barnfred 55]

Just been speaking to my neighbor who's daughters a nurse. Down to 3 hospitalised cases of Covid now in Cornwall

She also said that all leave has been cancelled for September and October as they are fully expecting a second wave after the summer influx of visitors

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Just been speaking to my neighbor who's daughters a nurse. Down to 3 hospitalised cases of Covid now in Cornwall

She also said that all leave has been cancelled for September and October as they are fully expecting a second wave after the summer influx of visitors

I think all health services are expecting a second wave. There's no return to normal service levels planned in our trust until July, and depending on how things go, quite probably beyond that (and by that, I mean remote consultations will be done rather than face to face, not a reduction in service).

 

[ramacca]

Specifically addressing accusations that Sage had proposed the government pursue a strategy of herd immunity early on in its response to the pandemic, Vallance said:

Allowing many people to catch Covid to create widespread immunity was never an aim and never could have been with a committee comprised of many doctors who have spent their lives dedicated to improving health.
Immunity on the other hand is something that prevents transmission and we all hope that a vaccine to induce immunity will become available.

It may not have been the 'aim' of the committee but it was Vallance's aim and as the spokesperson for the 'science' Vallance was conveying SAGE's views. If the members of SAGE didn't agree with this -

“Our aim is to try and reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it. Those are the key things we need to do.”

If it wasn't the committees views who is the 'our'? Johnson - 'take in on the chin? Cummings - 'let the old die' the rest of the government. If those on SAGE didn't agree with Vallance's et al's herd immunity aim why didn't they speak up?

There's definitely unease and trouble amongst the 'experts', who Johnson and Cummings are throwing under the bus, and they are making a break into the open to cover their backs hence Van-Tam's Cummings denunciation yesterday. Open warfare in the Tory party and now open warfare within the scientific and medical lot.