Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
Gotta love how it's being described as a "witch hunt"
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I can completely understand the anger. Across every meeting I've been at this week the line regarding 'we seriously need to reiterate stay at home messages' and resignation that there is now no way to locally/regionally maintain any degree of control. People are having to be diverted away from care home considerations and humanitarian activities to focus on consequence management as a result of actions in Westminster.

There isn't really any option but to try to put messages out to a public that now find it ridiculous - which is not particularly helpful at a time when the rolling 7 day average shows the UK having the highest death per capita.

The feeling very much is that all the effort has been completely undermined by the selfishness & stubborness of this Government.
 
I’m not a fan of this government or of its handling of a lot of this crisis although I’ll give them credit Where it’s due and I think the treasury and the governments measures over that side of this have been very good . So considering that it’s to be expected I’d hardly be supportive of either Cummings or Johnson .

All that said I’m genuinely shocked at the strength of public opinion over this . I’m surprised at the anger I’m seeing from usually non political people but also from tories . I’d doesn’t need saying but This has been handled beyond badly and they’ve seriously misjudged the public mood .

it’s hard to put an finger on way but I’m guessing the reasons why the Brexit campaign hit home , why a lot of Cummings ideas cut through was that it was anti -elite or rather it presented that idea . I think over this it looks as if it’s perpetuated a one rule for the elite one for the plebs and that’s also resonated .
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
I can completely understand the anger. Across every meeting I've been at this week the line regarding 'we seriously need to reiterate stay at home messages' and resignation that there is now no way to locally/regionally maintain any degree of control. People are having to be diverted away from care home considerations and humanitarian activities to focus on consequence management as a result of actions in Westminster.

There isn't really any option but to try to put messages out to a public that now find it ridiculous - which is not particularly helpful at a time when the rolling 7 day average shows the UK having the highest death per capita.

The feeling very much is that all the effort has been completely undermined by the selfishness & stubborness of this Government.
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This police commissioner ain't happy.

42m ago14:46

West Midlands police and crime commissioner David Jamieson said officers are reporting people breaking lockdown rules and using Dominic Cummings as an excuse, amid fears Boris Johnson’s key aide’s actions are undermining the government’s public health messaging.
Jamieson told BBC Radio 4’s The World At One programme that people are telling officers that “if it is okay for Cummings, it is okay for us” and “it looks like there is one rule for us and another rule for the people in No 10 Downing Street”.
He said:
Now you can’t... if the rules are flexible, and people seem to have interpreted them who are at the heart of government, then it is almost impossible then for police officers to be able to carry out their job effectively.
What the police are now saying to me is they are getting quite a push back, not just from some of the younger people who previously where saying why can’t I play football, why can’t I go out in the streets? They’re getting push backs from other generations of people as well.
Now that is a bad sign, showing that confidence in the rules, confidence in government and thereby the police’s ability to enforce it has been undermined very much in the last few days.
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Harryflashman said:
All that said I’m genuinely shocked at the strength of public opinion over this . I’m surprised at the anger I’m seeing from usually non political people but also from tories
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I'm not surprised at all.

Everyone has followed advice and rules, made huge sacrifices for weeks and weeks and weeks, then see this untalented whopper just do what he wants.
 
roydo said:
I'm not surprised at all.

Everyone has followed advice and rules, made huge sacrifices for weeks and weeks and weeks, then see this untalented whopper just do what he wants.
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im not surprised people are angry Mate but I’m surprised at how angry . We had huge care how fatalities , PPE issues , double testing when potentially triple testing and Massivs Sunday times reporting about risks being ignored but people seemed to by and large Accept it then this lit the touchpaper . I think the it just illustrates why the world generally , politics specifically and the like are just such Fascinating areas to study .
 
It's really bugging me now how brazenly open people are about breaking lockdown rules these days. So many people on my social media are posting selfies stood next to or hugging their friends and when you question it they say things like "get over it" or "it was only for the photo". Like, what's even the point anymore.
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
This is what really winds me up:

Cabinet minister says everyone should 'move on'

Everyone should "move on" from the row over whether Dominic Cummings broke lockdown rules by travelling 260 miles to his parents' house in Durham, a senior cabinet minister has said.

Robert Jenrick, the housing secretary, said the prime minister's chief aide should not resign from his post over the row, arguing that he had "acted reasonably and legally".
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Unlike himself who helped a former tory donor and billionaire to avoid paying tax (article in the Times today, can't link it)
 
Harryflashman said:
I’m not a fan of this government or of its handling of a lot of this crisis although I’ll give them credit Where it’s due and I think the treasury and the governments measures over that side of this have been very good . So considering that it’s to be expected I’d hardly be supportive of either Cummings or Johnson .

All that said I’m genuinely shocked at the strength of public opinion over this . I’m surprised at the anger I’m seeing from usually non political people but also from tories . I’d doesn’t need saying but This has been handled beyond badly and they’ve seriously misjudged the public mood .

it’s hard to put an finger on way but I’m guessing the reasons why the Brexit campaign hit home , why a lot of Cummings ideas cut through was that it was anti -elite or rather it presented that idea . I think over this it looks as if it’s perpetuated a one rule for the elite one for the plebs and that’s also resonated .
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For me it's how Johnson and Cummings have come across during all this mate, they've been so condescending. Then you've got the other Bellends telling us we all should just "move on" hardly the way to go when you're trying to get the nation back onside.
 
Walken said:
Would recommend foxy's books, an interesting guy
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Will look that up. Cheers.
His partnership with Mendis was superb. So quick between the wickets turning singles into 2's etc.
When you think about it that Lancs side would be unplayable in modern 20/20.
Harvey would be absolutely minted in the IPL too..

Anyway, soz to drift off topic.
 
Toast said:
Will look that up. Cheers.
His partnership with Mendis was superb. So quick between the wickets turning singles into 2's etc.
When you think about it that Lancs side would be unplayable in modern 20/20.
Harvey would be absolutely minted in the IPL too..

Anyway, soz to drift off topic.
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I think there is a couple of generations of lancs players who would have done very very well in the 20/20 era. That being said they played in an era when county cricket really mattered and domestic comps sold out which must have made it a bit more thrilling, a bit like being an FA cup winner pre-millennium before the big clubs deliberately ruined it
 
Nymzee said:
It's really bugging me now how brazenly open people are about breaking lockdown rules these days. So many people on my social media are posting selfies stood next to or hugging their friends and when you question it they say things like "get over it" or "it was only for the photo". Like, what's even the point anymore.
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Yeah it's a bit of a worry how people are behaving over here too. Not really lock down over here any more but Sunday there was a big group, must have been a good 50-100 people at least having a salsa party on one of the river banks. No distancing going on whatsoever, standing around in close groups, pairing off to dance etc. To be honest I'm sort of jealous of the people who don't care. They're enjoying themselves a lot more than me at the moment.
 
Billy Dean said:
Yeah it's a bit of a worry how people are behaving over here too. Not really lock down over here any more but Sunday there was a big group, must have been a good 50-100 people at least having a salsa party on one of the river banks. No distancing going on whatsoever, standing around in close groups, pairing off to dance etc. To be honest I'm sort of jealous of the people who don't care. They're enjoying themselves a lot more than me at the moment.
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I'm jealous too but also annoyed as they'll ruin it for the rest of us over here, especially my town, when we get slammed back to full lockdown again.
 
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