Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Without being an expert whatsoever, in the 4 days or so since Italy shut everything down, the number of cases has continued to rise just as it did beforehand. Not sure how long it's supposed to be before such an action stops the virus.

About a week, possibly a fortnight, but no more than that.
Though it probably won't stop the virus, but it will buy the country some time.

 

[Hickson9]

Without being an expert whatsoever, in the 4 days or so since Italy shut everything down, the number of cases has continued to rise just as it did beforehand. Not sure how long it's supposed to be before such an action stops the virus.

Presumably itd be a couple of weeks.

 

[tsubaki]

If it were Corbyn as PM being similarly advised by the same CMO and CSA and he did exactly the same as Boris, their heads would explode......

TBF Corbyn would have done things differently (almost certainly in terms of announcing more surge capacity for the NHS, which is what is going to be needed in all circumstances now) and there wouldn't have been the same media reaction that Boris got - of fawning approval followed by panic once it became clear that his careful plan lasted a matter of hours before events wrecked it, which might well put the country in a dangerous place of people not believing what the Government says (if they didn't already not believe it, given its and his history of fibs).

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

absolutely, and that is why this emphasis on confirmed cases should be exposed for the utter fraud that it is now

These moments clearly define posters. Some are clearly right wing, that's fine, however, some pretend not to be for whatever reason but these situations, well it's like a pheasent beat shoot!

 

[tsubaki]

These moments clearly define posters. Some are clearly right wing, that's fine, however, some pretend not to be for whatever reason but these situations, well it's like a pheasent beat shoot!

TBF the uselessness of that statistic now (at least under the current circumstances) is something that most here now agree on

 

[peteblue]

Without being an expert whatsoever, in the 4 days or so since Italy shut everything down, the number of cases has continued to rise just as it did beforehand. Not sure how long it's supposed to be before such an action stops the virus.

No one knows. Info from China isn’t worth the paper it’s written on as they have almost certainly been hiding the figures. the same can be said for Iran. Italy is probably the first and best test bed we have, so we wait and see.....

 

[Deleted member 48881]

this really

 

[Brennan]

Worries me that outlets are referencing the decline in cases in China.

People there have been barricaded into their homes for weeks on end. Once those restrictions ease I believe we’ll see further outbreaks there and this idea of isolation being a cure for the spread will be debunked.

As with Measles the way to stop this being a never ending issue is to allow the majority of the populace to develop immunity. In the absence of a vaccine that will have to mean infection.

 

[thirdmantackle]

Worries me that outlets are referencing the decline in cases in China.

People there have been barricaded into their homes for weeks on end. Once those restrictions ease I believe we’ll see further outbreaks there and this idea of isolation being a cure for the spread will be debunked.

As with Measles the way to stop further spread of this is to allow the majority of the populace to develop immunity. In the absence of a vaccine that will have to mean infection.

It's a brand new virus.
Nobody knows that.

If you are willing to let the UK Tory government allow up to 200,000 people potentially die then good luck to ye all

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Even if all COVID-19 deaths aren't registered as such, any large number of deaths will show up in the overall stats. There's normally something like 600k deaths a year ( in the UK I think, but it might be England and Wales ), if COVID-19 adds 100k+ to that number, then there'll be nowhere to hide it.

Obviously, people might come up with a conspiracy theory to say that the stats will be fudged to reduce the overall number, but I reckon those people would be fruitcakes.

They will go as far, well we can't be sure. And start wheeling out maybe the wrong flu vaccine was used or two flu's were prevalent and we could have not planned, maybe widespread floodings.

So to push spike in deaths to other possible causes.

And then that statistical evidence of Covid 19 will be used to compare how we performed against other countries who tested far more people.

 

[tsubaki]

Worries me that outlets are referencing the decline in cases in China.

People there have been barricaded into their homes for weeks on end. Once those restrictions ease I believe we’ll see further outbreaks there and this idea of isolation being a cure for the spread will be debunked.

As with Measles the way to stop this being a never ending issue is to allow the majority of the populace to develop immunity. In the absence of a vaccine that will have to mean infection.

Perhaps, though the way the Chinese have enforced it would probably have a better effect of calming the disease down (in terms of its impact on health) than just allowing it to run riot did, which as we all saw with Wuhan in the beginning was a theory that was pretty effectively debunked.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Worries me that outlets are referencing the decline in cases in China.

People there have been barricaded into their homes for weeks on end. Once those restrictions ease I believe we’ll see further outbreaks there and this idea of isolation being a cure for the spread will be debunked.

As with Measles the way to stop this being a never ending issue is to allow the majority of the populace to develop immunity. In the absence of a vaccine that will have to mean infection.

But in the meantime you need to stop the emergency services and hospitals being swamped.

And hope it doesn't mutate.

 

[Brennan]

Perhaps, though the way the Chinese have enforced it would probably have a better effect of calming the disease down (in terms of its impact on health) than just allowing it to run riot did, which as we all saw with Wuhan in the beginning was a theory that was pretty effectively debunked.

Absolutely, but I think we have to find a medium. Story on the BBC news site now from cafe and restaurant bodies warning of widespread and permanent redundancies.

 

[Billy Dean]

Worries me that outlets are referencing the decline in cases in China.

People there have been barricaded into their homes for weeks on end. Once those restrictions ease I believe we’ll see further outbreaks there and this idea of isolation being a cure for the spread will be debunked.

As with Measles the way to stop this being a never ending issue is to allow the majority of the populace to develop immunity. In the absence of a vaccine that will have to mean infection.

Doesn't cure it but slows down infection rate thus relieving pressure on hospitals etc no? Or am I missing something?

 

[Brennan]

Doesn't cure it but slows down infection rate thus relieving pressure on hospitals etc no? Or am I missing something?

It relieves pressure on hospitals temporarily but will tank the economy. China is getting around this but our economy and governmental systems are very different.