Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ramacca]

It's difficult for Nosferatu Cummings et al to handle this crisis. It comes down to deaths, and no matter which way they try and tweak it statistically it's a story of failure. That failure has permeated down to the population; people dont trust them to keep them safe and the hoped for return to work wont materialise in the numbers they want...kids back in school is a major part of that and it's being shredded by the teachers.

Reminded of Heath's inability to govern. Will be interesting to see what happens with schools. The right wing media are in no doubt that the teachers have to be faced down by Johnson and get children into schools.

 

[zzr45]

Couldn't they use the ex NHS staff that volunteered?

Presumably they are still tied up in covering gaps elsewhere in the short term.

I think I read somewhere that they're looking for 3000 people at that level, and then another 15,000 people who wouldn't need to have such high levels of qualifications or skills, but even getting 3000 people at that level won't be straightforward.

Yeah, the problem is that certain sections have deemed it to be a dead simple job of turn up on someone's doorstep, have a chat and then play an extended game of guess who that could be done by furloughed workers from outside of the sector. Obviously the reality is completely different.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Re the school thing, airports and various employers (apparently Amazon have been doing 100,000 of these tests per day on employees - https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/update-from-amazons-operations-network) have been using temperature as a gauge of one's general health, so can they not just have a few teachers at the gates with thermometers and check pupils on the way in, with any with a high temperature sent home again. If kids are identified as 'clean' then social distancing becomes less of an issue?

 

[BrendanGOT]

 

[zzr45]

Re the school thing, airports and various employers (apparently Amazon have been doing 100,000 of these tests per day on employees - https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/update-from-amazons-operations-network) have been using temperature as a gauge of one's general health, so can they not just have a few teachers at the gates with thermometers and check pupils on the way in, with any with a high temperature sent home again. If kids are identified as 'clean' then social distancing becomes less of an issue?

The argument will be that teachers aren't qualified health workers, so if it could be proven there was an outbreak due to an infected kid entering a classroom then it could potentially open them up to issues down the line for acting in a manner beyond their competencies.

 

[ramacca]

Presumably they are still tied up in covering gaps elsewhere in the short term.


Yeah, the problem is that certain sections have deemed it to be a dead simple job of turn up on someone's doorstep, have a chat and then play an extended game of guess who that could be done by furloughed workers from outside of the sector. Obviously the reality is completely different.

"When the NHS invited people to become "volunteer responders" a month ago, there was a deluge of applications.

Three quarters of a million people signed up to help with jobs including patient transportation and grocery delivery.

Six hundred thousand were accepted on to the scheme, but so far only 50,000 tasks have been completed.

There's frustration from volunteers who haven't been used yet.

Rebecca Fairclough, from Manchester, applied to become a "check in and chat" volunteer - giving phone support to people who feel isolated.

But although she has spent many hours on standby, she is yet to be called upon.

"I've been on the app and marked myself as on duty, mainly in the evenings and weekends. So there's a total of 75 hours I've been online ready to volunteer and either make or take calls and I've heard nothing," she says.

Vulnerable people who are eligible to claim support from the scheme have also complained of it being difficult to access".

There still there and waiting to be used. I wonder why they're not being used as contact tracers? Maybe not qualified?

 

[whiteshadow]

Perhaps mate, i think we largely though, countries have been very gung ho about planning to open up schools with data and risk still emerging, equally things like group sports going forward, that the vast majority will be minors. We tend to talk of children hugging their grandparents with protecting the grandparents in mind. While there may not be an absolute dismissal there is an argument there that the risks may be minimised. An argument rather then an absolute as you say.

There's peer reviewed evidence that it affects kids less, to a significant degree.

 

[zzr45]

There still there and waiting to be used. I wonder why they're not being used as contact tracers? Maybe not qualified?

Almost certainly. It seems a simple job on the face of it, but it seems that isn't the case.

 

[davek]

Reminded of Heath's inability to govern. Will be interesting to see what happens with schools. The right wing media are in no doubt that the teachers have to be faced down by Johnson and get children into schools.

They're using all the tricks: the Children's Commissioner for England wanting 'the squabbling" to end over sending kids back and stressing the need to get classes going again.

A post now weaponised against teachers and doing Butcher Johnson's bidding.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Rees-Mogg is right. I never thought I'd say that.
If they expect the rest of us to resume work and kids to school then MPs should too.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Care home deaths still pretty high, 287 by today’s figures, hospital deaths dropped to 181 with only 4 coming from April, the other 177 are from the last 10 days

 

[Goat]

Dodgy that fella.

Something not right with him at all.

I appreciate hes putting a positive spin on things, but most of what he writes is without foundation at all.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Dodgy that fella.

Something not right with him at all.

I appreciate hes putting a positive spin on things, but most of what he writes is without foundation at all.

Disagree mate and he's ex WHO.

 

[Goat]

Disagree mate and he's ex WHO.

So hes not even good enough for the incompetent WHO?????????

I just have a firm mistrust of anybody who shares views with Donald Trump.

 

[Toast]

Re the school thing, airports and various employers (apparently Amazon have been doing 100,000 of these tests per day on employees - https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company-news/update-from-amazons-operations-network) have been using temperature as a gauge of one's general health, so can they not just have a few teachers at the gates with thermometers and check pupils on the way in, with any with a high temperature sent home again. If kids are identified as 'clean' then social distancing becomes less of an issue?

We have been asked at work if we can provide schools with any spare Covid signage and floor vinyl stickers as they have nothing. This is a request directly from the schools themselves.

Absolute disgrace.