Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

Apparently around 10‰ more likely to die if a smoker and you get to ICU but between two to five times less likely to be admitted to ICU in the first

At this point it's actually beyond reasonable doubt that smoking - or at the very least nicotine - is bizarrely a protective measure.

I'd like to know the crossover with vaping. If it's nicotine, then surely similar stats for people who vape would be seen.

A lot of the ICU cases seem to be a result of cytokine storms where the immune system goes into overdrive. Being an ex smoker appears to increase risk overall compared to both a non smoker and a current smoker. So my best guess that there is something to do with smoking that reduces the chances of a cytokine storm but if you do end up in ICU the smoking damage to lungs/heart/kidneys makes further complications likely.

Vaping use compared to both smokers and non smokers would be an interesting comparison, especially as vaping is more prevalent in younger age groups so some of the other risk factors that come with age less of an issue.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Sheria Robinson-Lane: Why have nursing homes been hit so hard by the coronavirus?

ANN ARBOR—Nursing home residents and workers account for about one-third of COVID-19 deaths in the United States, so far, according to media reports. Sheria Robinson-Lane, a gerontologist and assistant professor at the University of Michigan School of Nursing, is an expert in palliative and long-

news.umich.edu

 

[mill]

Agreed. I wouldve thought smokers would have it worse. Although I believe that study is just likelihood of testing positive/getting the disease, not outlook once you get it. Still pretty interesting

Maybe this is silly but you perhaps spend a little less time in enclosed spaces if you smoke...

 

[Buckers]

A lot of the ICU cases seem to be a result of cytokine storms where the immune system goes into overdrive. Being an ex smoker appears to increase risk overall compared to both a non smoker and a current smoker. So my best guess that there is something to do with smoking that reduces the chances of a cytokine storm but if you do end up in ICU the smoking damage to lungs/heart/kidneys makes further complications likely.

Vaping use compared to both smokers and non smokers would be an interesting comparison, especially as vaping is more prevalent in younger age groups so some of the other risk factors that come with age less of an issue.

I’d love to see the stats for the cannabis smoking community.

 

[PhilM]

Diabetes also less of a factor than previous studies suggested

My mum has Chronic Kidney Disease, so I’m definitely telling her to stay isolating.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.10.20083683v1

New modelling from the University of Warwick highlights the importance of social distancing.

 

[Tramps_mate]

It's going to take months and months and months to get rid of this. We will not return to 'normal' for atleast 12 months. To be honest I think a lot of people have changed forever. Restaurants, pubs, large public gatherings are all knackered for the foreseeable..

 

[davek]

I was thinking the same actually. It’s almost as if his shambolic address never happened.

It definitely rattled his equally monstrous cabinet with the wheeling out of Raab the following day to try and translate the previous evening’s waffle to various media outlets.You could see the desperation in his eyes as he tried to piece together the fragments his master had left for him to pick up.

This was followed by his disastrous performance at PMQs in the proceeding week. His myth is slowly imploding. The Emperor’s clothes unravelling.

He could pin mistakes like the Garden Bridge project on his underlings and delegate leadership when Mayor of London; making mistakes as a PM in a pandemic is not something he's going to smarm and squirm his way out of.

 

[zzr45]

He could pin mistakes like the Garden Bridge project on his underlings and delegate leadership when Mayor of London; making mistakes as a PM in a pandemic is not something he's going to smarm and squirm his way out of.

Don’t talk to yourself, Dave.

 

[davek]

Diabetes also less of a factor than previous studies suggested

Am I reading that last line right - smokers test positive for Covid19 less than non-smokers?

I need to take up smoking.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Aye, a few have had some embarrassing mishaps by not really understanding the tech, which is a shame. As highlighted below, there are some obvious concerns around inequality as well, whether due to poor internet connectivity, lack of space in the home, or generally a poor environment for any kind of learning. All of which are fantastic reasons why it's so important that kids can go back to school if possible.



Oh man, you wouldn't believe some of the stories the wife comes back with. The environment many live in really is a hidden tragedy, and I can only imagine the difficulties it places not just on kids trying to study at home, but adults trying to work from home. Extremely challenging situation. I'm sure every stone will be unturned to try and figure out a solution, and hopefully collectively they manage to sort something out.

Our lass has the same in her school. You have some kids who have both parents on smack, you have some who only speak Dutch at school and speak Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic, Bulgarian etc at home where parents can't help them with home learning because they don't speak the language, some where there isn't a computer.

In poor/socially deprived areas home schooling is seriously ineffective.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Went to a video funeral on Thursday. Very, very odd.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I’d love to see the stats for the cannabis smoking community.

Any habitiual weed smoker will be only too happy to bore the arse off you with it's myriad health benefits.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Am I reading that last line right - smokers test positive for Covid19 less than non-smokers?

I need to take up smoking.

Must be due to them having knackered lungs already you would assume.

Like how at school you only got nits if you had clean hair lol

 

[Bruce Wayne]