Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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The care home scandal of 40percent dead is underestimated- GPS were doing death cotificates over the telephone on the radio this am - one home a senior carer on £8.50p per hour supervising staff plus all the medications for the home.....
It needs renationalised imo.....
Stop lying Joey
 
Imagine putting a loved one family member in these places now knowing more facts about these holding facilities. Not to slant the staff who work in them been a carer myself in these facilities.

CQC will have a lot of questions to ask because care homes and those looked after in the community will have to answer to relatives.
 
Just do you know, you brought numbers into it first. ‘Our numbers line up with...’.
So don’t talk absolute rubbish about undermining their use in the first place.

I’m using investment bank research as a source, who in turn have access to the best sources of information that money can pay for, Ive got access to access to the opinion of leading epidemiologists on a weekly basis, and able to read expert opinion on the impact on the economy. It includes direct updates from previous chancellors and members of treasury select committees, as well as previous heads of the Bank of England.
The actions of the U.K. government are assessed constantly.
The numbers *are* important. And the opinion of those I’m listening to are valid.
And they are saying that mistakes have been made and people have died because of it. They are saying that the slow reaction means that the lockdown measures need to be in place longer. And that because we aren’t well placed to track and trace that we are likely to see more of a W shaped recession (which increases the likelihood of actual redundancies and more than just furloughed employment).

everyone can be wrong but I’m guessing their sources and their opinions are much better informed than yours.
There seems to be a variance of opinions on how bad the economic fallout from this will be
Some are saying a V shaped recovery,some are saying a U shaped recovery and some are saying a W shaped recovery and worst estimates are an L shaped recovery
Bank of England saying worst recession in 300 years and the ECB and the FED saying worst since the great depression.
Some car manufacturers are saying they could go to the wall and the Airline industry is in chaos on both flights and manufacturing side
KBC are saying today a 12% drop in house prices this year in Ireland with maybe another 5% next year
Garages expecting a lot of PCP cars to be repossessed and a firesale of current stock
Irish central bank saying banks will have to be more prudent with loans and mortgages to prevent another 2008 Financial sector crash.
Irish banks cutting value of houses for new mortgages by 10% meaning either a price drop or a much bigger deposit required
Pension funds set to take a hammering and commercial property market set to go into free fall due to WFH becoming the norm
Twitter have announced all workers can continue to WFH for ever
What are the people in the real know saying ???
I heard one Irish economist saying this will make the crash of 2008 look like a blip.
 
Another disturbing read:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52650121

Particular highlights are:

Louise Wigginton, a specialist respiratory nurse working in an intensive care Covid-19 Red Zone in central London, said she was left feeling upset and unappreciated after seeing groups of people drinking and socialising in a park directly outside the hospital's intensive care unit.

"As I put all my efforts into saving your family and your friends there are people out there not even bothering to social distance", the nurse said.

"Yes you may clap for the NHS. We do appreciate it, but what we do not appreciate is the clap to our face and the knife in our backs when you wave us off to work."


Which is pretty much what we have been saying despite posters like @peteblue indicating that people should grow up, that some, and by some I mean lots of people, can't be trusted to do the right thing. These hospital workers would be well within their rights to strike this time around if it blows up into a massive second spike. First time they had to cope because it was unprecedented situation but if the government makes silly decisions that causes a hospital admission crisis then why should they continue to risk their lives and their loved ones for that?
 
The care home scandal of 40percent dead is underestimated- GPS were doing death cotificates over the telephone on the radio this am - one home a senior carer on £8.50p per hour supervising staff plus all the medications for the home.....
It needs renationalised imo.....

20% of those working in care professions are EU migrants Joe, and around half of the EU migrants currently classed as key workers would not qualify to work here under Patel's new immigration criteria.
 
Imagine putting a loved one family member in these places now knowing more facts about these holding facilities. Not to slant the staff who work in them been a carer myself in these facilities.

Once again the Conservative Party has added to it's long list of victims, with Care Homes being added to it along with the homeless, mentally ill and disabled.

God I hope this lot are gone before I get too old.
 
Another disturbing read:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52650121

Particular highlights are:

Louise Wigginton, a specialist respiratory nurse working in an intensive care Covid-19 Red Zone in central London, said she was left feeling upset and unappreciated after seeing groups of people drinking and socialising in a park directly outside the hospital's intensive care unit.

"As I put all my efforts into saving your family and your friends there are people out there not even bothering to social distance", the nurse said.

"Yes you may clap for the NHS. We do appreciate it, but what we do not appreciate is the clap to our face and the knife in our backs when you wave us off to work."


Which is pretty much what we have been saying despite posters like @peteblue indicating that people should grow up, that some, and by some I mean lots of people, can't be trusted to do the right thing. These hospital workers would be well within their rights to strike this time around if it blows up into a massive second spike. First time they had to cope because it was unprecedented situation but if the government makes silly decisions that causes a hospital admission crisis then why should they continue to risk their lives and their loved ones for that?

Johnson's a [Poor language removed], but people need to take better care of themselves. The missus showed me a few photos of enormous queues for the drive through KFC as soon as it opened near us. It's a common refrain from her, that she would much rather people took better care of themselves and stopped abusing the NHS than get clapped on Thursday evenings. That people do that whilst being well aware that obesity and the numerous health conditions associated with it are huge risk factors for the virus taking a heavy toll just rubs the noses of doctors and nurses in it. Johnson's a complete knobhead, but he's not responsible for the decisions we make as individuals.
 
Incidentally, I know the Czech's have been lauded for their approach to this. Summer camps are a common thing for Czech kids, and they're announcing this week that they are likely to be open as usual this summer.

Earlier, the Ministry’s chief epidemiologist, Roman Prymula, said the risk of children contracting Covid-19 from each other at school and similar settings was “almost zero”.

Thought it might be of interest given the discussions around opening schools here and the experiences elsewhere in Europe.
 
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