Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

Most businesses would have only applied for the furlough payment after they paid their staff or when their payment was due which i would have thought was the end of April.That was the process at wifes works anyway.

Yep that was the date originally communicated. I think the problem we are facing is waiting for our accountant to get the claim through......

 

[Kev The Rat]

Implied. (Think suggested)
You inferred. (Think concludes)
(Sorry)

i would say the way he came accross, and considering who he was responding to, indicated an inference. anyway we shall see tomorrow.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

So what, would have been lots of people in same boat - concerned if not for their own health outcomes but for people sharing their house.

It would also have eased strain on 111 calls and doctors - they have spent far more on those checking up on him than a test would have costed.

And what about going forward - does my uncle now assume he had had it or not?

So what?

You bold my point here;

I think those tests are useful to get NHS workers/vital workers back to work, but largely pointless for a general population.

Populist measures and a blag to claim testing is happening.

Only worthwhile tests for the general population IMO, is the blood tests.

Saying you strongly disagree, with a story about your uncle.

1. Your uncle is elderly, and vulnerable.
2. He has symptoms.

Those two combined points aren't the general population, are they?

In my opinion, they should do swab tests for a targeted audience (get doctors etc back to work, and for vulnerable people with symptoms) - not to the general population.

The only mass testing on the general population, in my view, should be blood, not swab.

 

[COYBL25]

I work for the NHS. I was setting up testing facilites and ordering PPE when you were telling people not to fall for the Governments hysteria.

Get out and clap for me rather than talking crap on a forum (I'm not really that fussed do what you want).

 

[davek]

I work for the NHS. I was setting up testing facilites and ordering PPE when you were telling people not to fall for the Governments hysteria.

Get out and clap for me rather than talking crap on a forum (I'm not really that fussed do what you want).

Then if you're a frontline worker in the NHS, you should acknowledge that wearing 'kin masks in public is a sensible way to cut down on people ending up in hospital...or have other health experts in other countries got that wrong?

 

[davek]

It's much more responsible to stay away from crowded areas and go shopping once a week than go everyday but wear a mask.

...yes, but if you cant avoid it, wear one.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What happened to the 50,000 you quoted me an hour or two ago, have another 5,000 just been murdered while Boris is in Parliament giving a statement and answering questions.....

5,000 people clearly weren't being alert enough

 

[Bruce Wayne]

So what?

You bold my point here;



With a story about your uncle.

1. Your uncle is elderly, and vulnerable.
2. He has symptoms.

Those two combined points aren't the general population, are they?

In my opinion, they should do swab tests for a targeted audience (get doctors etc back to work, and for vulnerable people with symptoms) - not to the general population.

The only mass testing on the general population, in my view, should be blood, not swab.

If developing some form of herd immunity remains a strategy, then surely it makes sense to know just who has had it?

 

[LinekersLegs]

So what?

You bold my point here;



With a story about your uncle.

1. Your uncle is elderly, and vulnerable.
2. He has symptoms.

Those two combined points aren't the general population, are they?

In my opinion, they should do swab tests for a targeted audience (get doctors etc back to work, and for vulnerable people with symptoms) - not to the general population.

The only mass testing on the general population, in my view, should be blood, not swab.

Think this is a pretty wide group anyway, especially if you consider risk factors of people you share a house with - 1 in 12 UK adults have asthma for instance.

In my opinion there should be wide scale PCR testing for anyone with symptoms or who has good reason to believe they have been exposed.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I work for the NHS. I was setting up testing facilites and ordering PPE when you were telling people not to fall for the Governments hysteria.

Get out and clap for me rather than talking crap on a forum (I'm not really that fussed do what you want).

Pfft, your experience is nothing compared to some bloke on the internet.

 

[davek]

he actually inferred it would stay at 80%

Maybe so.

 

[BlueToff]

I think you’ll find the majority of the wealthy and middle classes will be working from home until this all blows over.

And so will a lot of working class.

Working class does not = construction worker. It doesn't even = 'low skilled' (for lack of a better term!) jobs.

I'm working class. I can - when I do work - work from home.

My friends are all working class. Pretty much all of them - that haven't been furloughed - are working from home.

The project manager at the company where I used to work is definitely middle class. I know that he will have been on-site and has been for the last two weeks because that's when they went back to work (albeit following social distancing rules).

 

[Jebus_lives]

Then if you're a frontline worker in the NHS, you should acknowledge that wearing 'kin masks in public is a sensible way to cut down on people ending up in hospital...or have other health experts in other countries got that wrong?

I didn't say I didn't acknowledge it. Just questioning the merits of a fine and presumably change in the law to give the police & courts the powers to enforce it.

I suppose we could always skip law and order and just send in the 15th King's Hussars.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Think this is a pretty wide group anyway, especially if you consider risk factors of people you share a house with - 1 in 12 UK adults have asthma for instance.

In my opinion there should be wide scale PCR testing for anyone with symptoms or who has good reason to believe they have been exposed.

Currently the government are swab testing;

• over 65
• cannot do their work from home
• living with those identified above

That's pretty much the general population. They've made this decision because for some reason the government decided 100,000 was vital to show how committed they were to testing, so vital they've actually lied to claim 100,000 tests on the deadline date they gave.

I think it's a bum steer to tick a testing box - it seems to me it's common sense that mass prolonged swab tests shouldn't be for the general public. They should be to get NHS workers back to work (not as vital at the moment), vulnerable people who have symptoms so they're aware, or in the absence of blood test availability, targeted regionally on sample groups to inform modellers.

The sooner the government can find a blood test for the general population, and create an infrastructure to gather data from those tests the better.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Surley Everton can knock these up?

Euro football clubs launch branded non-surgical face masks

Following a similar initiative from the NBA, several league clubs across Europe have also made non-medical face masks available via their club shops.

en.as.com

I'll happily wear one if they start making em Dave mate