Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The problem is that the UK cannot see itself for what it is. We tell ourselves time and again that the NHS is the pride of the world, when in reality it's a second rate organisation, lurching from crisis to crisis hiding behind the regard the front line staff are held in, always telling us more funds are needed to prop up badly outdated and ineffective systems.

We have an ADHD media that zip from one crisis to the next causing absolute bedlam and creating issues where problems are fixed without deeper thought.

We've seemingly ditched religion in preference of social justice, which sees things like looking how to different ethnicities cope with viruses on a genetic level as racist and demanded that kids that think they are transgender because of some crap they read online are pandered to at our expense.

We bang on about the Blitz spirit but dont half love a cry and whinge. We claim we love the NHS but abuse it on a regular basis through lifestyle choices.

We pretend that we are some bastion of industry, but we're a bunch of shitarses incapable of looking after ourselves.

We brought this on ourselves over decades.

Spot on mate.

 

[davek]

Because I don't believe the government is solely responsible for the UK's response to this crisis. A whole bunch of people from across society are working directly to tackle this, and I've no doubt they're working very hard in doing so. Indeed, despite the terribly work-shy image presented by the Tories during the Brexit negotiations, I strongly suspect that even the Tories are working hard on this issue.



That wasn't an attempt to do anything except underline the complexity of story that sits behind all of the statistics we're fed every day. When we're given a single number we're lulled into thinking the solution is a simple one. It's not. It never has been.



Like you, I'm by and large doing bugger all except trying not to be a burden on those that are doing stuff. The difference is, I'm not using this fairly relaxed vantage point to tell those who are doing stuff what they should be doing. Believe it or not, on here, I'm not trying to do anything. I share the odd bit of content I find interesting, and try and make chewing the fat as enjoyable a way to pass the time as possible. No more, no less. Like everyone else in society, I'm probably crap at it like, but there's no agenda there.

Apology accepted.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Jebus_lives]

The problem is that the UK cannot see itself for what it is. We tell ourselves time and again that the NHS is the pride of the world, when in reality it's a second rate organisation, lurching from crisis to crisis hiding behind the regard the front line staff are held in, always telling us more funds are needed to prop up badly outdated and ineffective systems.

We have an ADHD media that zip from one crisis to the next causing absolute bedlam and creating issues where problems are fixed without deeper thought.

We've seemingly ditched religion in preference of social justice, which sees things like looking how to different ethnicities cope with viruses on a genetic level as racist and demanded that kids that think they are transgender because of some crap they read online are pandered to at our expense.

We bang on about the Blitz spirit but dont half love a cry and whinge. We claim we love the NHS but abuse it on a regular basis through lifestyle choices.

We pretend that we are some bastion of industry, but we're a bunch of shitarses incapable of looking after ourselves.

We brought this on ourselves over decades.

You missed out millennials in your diatribe...

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Why is this being counted like this instead of releasing the correct numbers for the last 24 hours.

I don't know mate. I've always found it a tad confusing how they do it.

 

[Blueclouds]

I don't know mate. I've always found it a tad confusing how they do it.

They could give you a backlog total and then the average daily deaths.

 

[navidson]

Why is this being counted like this instead of releasing the correct numbers for the last 24 hours.

This is the way it's always been counted - badly

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

They could give you a backlog total and then the average daily deaths.

NHS England say this mate "Some fatalities take longer to show up in official statistics due to Covid-19 tests and post-mortem examinations."

I agree with you though, why not just do the daily deaths for a 24 hour period.

 

[LinekersLegs]

May be an explanation why cases in some areas are still holding steady despite “lockdown” - family transmission.


And yes it is China data so “don’t trust but verify” is appropriate.

 

[Jebus_lives]

NHS England say this mate "Some fatalities take longer to show up in official statistics due to Covid-19 tests and post-mortem examinations."

I agree with you though, why not just do the daily deaths for a 24 hour period.

The death stats are very misleading. Take them with a pinch of salt.

 

[Walken]

You missed out millennials in your diatribe...

Well said, plenty of countries who don't abide by the alpha male stiff upperlipedness nonsense that is all bravado and means absolutely nothing, have still managed to cope well by having a social conscience and competent politicans willing to use their best minds. Also aided by not voting in a direction that hamstrings their healtcare system

 

[Blueclouds]

The death stats are very misleading. Take them with a pinch of salt.

So basically we dont have a clue how many have died daily in the last 4 days.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So basically we dont have a clue how many have died daily in the last 4 days.

Not quite. You can say based on rough estimates, but it's more complex than simply just accounting for deaths within a 24 hour period as the process across health and social care for recording of deaths isn't unified and in some cases a death can be reported 1-2 weeks after the death. Covid deaths are expected to be reported within a specific timeframe, but it's hard to know precise figures per day.

 

[navidson]

So basically we dont have a clue how many have died daily in the last 4 days.

We don't have any clue have many have died daily going back to the start of this thing

They keep adding numbers to the daily figures from weeks (and even months) ago

 

[Barnfred 55]

GOT membership has rarely followed UK opinion. It has got every election wrong and also the referendum. About the only thing that we all agree on is that the League should be cancelled.....

I think you'll also find that they pretty much all agree that Everton are crap too