Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Barnfred 55 said:
No worries.

I can understand why a lot of people don't trust the government.

However for me, everyone has a decision to make. To start coming out of lockdown we have to have an efficient TTI system in place. I don't think any reasonable person would argue with that. A mobile phone location tracing app will help with that, but to do so the data needs to be shared with the people who are carrying out the TTI efforts. I don't pretend to understand exactly how these things work, but apparently there needs to be a 60% take up of the app for it be work effectively. Now I have no idea if this is 60% of adults, or 60% of smart phone users. An effective app will help save lives as we strive to control the spread of the virus once lockdown restrictions are lifted/reduced.

The alternative is to stay in lockdown longer, presumably until an effective vaccine is produced. That of course brings other different, but just as significant risks.
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I think for once we all have to have faith that this app being put out there by the Tories (no laughing at the back!) is for the better and not some nanny state motive.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
No worries.

I can understand why a lot of people don't trust the government.

However for me, everyone has a decision to make. To start coming out of lockdown we have to have an efficient TTI system in place. I don't think any reasonable person would argue with that. A mobile phone location tracing app will help with that, but to do so the data needs to be shared with the people who are carrying out the TTI efforts. I don't pretend to understand exactly how these things work, but apparently there needs to be a 60% take up of the app for it be work effectively. Now I have no idea if this is 60% of adults, or 60% of smart phone users. An effective app will help save lives as we strive to control the spread of the virus once lockdown restrictions are lifted/reduced.

The alternative is to stay in lockdown longer, presumably until an effective vaccine is produced. That of course brings other different, but just as significant risks.
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Was reading an article on Taiwan will try to dig it out as, unlike S Korea, they hadn’t used phone apps much for tracking except to monitor those who should be in quarantine not leaving home. All their tracing of contacts was irrc of the phone/shoe leather kind.
 
MarcelsGoat said:
All good so far sis.

I just rang my mar she said im blood type O, she also said to stop reading rubbish on the internet.
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davek said:
But the bought and paid for political whores of official SAGE have already distanced themselves from mask wearing, so your point is moot.
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Can you please stop attacking our NHS David? First you want key IT work outsourced to tax dodging American corporations, and now you accuse leading NHS doctors and scientists of being corrupt. You're such a bad Tory.
 
davek said:
This staged release of the lock down in Ireland seems eminently sensible.

Mind you, you can only do it if you've flattened out the case numbers of this virus.


From May, the five phases of lockdown easing in Ireland are:

Phase 1 (18 May)

  • Outdoor meetings of up to four people from different households will be allowed and childcare for healthcare workers will be opened.
  • Outdoor work, such as construction and gardening, to resume.
  • Some shops, such as those selling stationery and IT equipment and opticians can also reopen.
  • Retail outlets that are primarily outdoors, such as garden centres, hardware stores and repair shops can reopen.
  • Current rules restricting funerals up to 10 people still apply.
  • Schools and college buildings will reopen to teachers only.
Phase 2 (8 June)

  • Visits to a different household by groups of up to four people will be allowed, as long as they maintain a 2-metre distance from those they don’t live with.
  • Small retail outlets can open with physical distancing measures in place.
  • Libraries can open again.


Phase 3 (29 June)

  • Sporting events can resume behind closed doors.
  • Cafes and restaurants can reopen with physical distancing measures and strict cleaning protocols.
  • Playgrounds can reopen.
  • Those with low levels of interaction in their jobs can return to work.
  • Non-essential retail, such as clothes shops, can reopen, but this is limited to those with street-level entrances and does not include shops inside shopping centres.
Phase 4 (20 July)

  • Movement beyond a 20km radius will be allowed.
  • Small social gatherings by family and close friends, including small weddings and baptisms, will be allowed with a maximum number of attendees and physical distancing in place.
  • Larger numbers can visit another household for a limited period of time, while maintaining physical distancing.
  • Those who cannot work at home can return to work.
  • Museums, galleries and churches can reopen.
Phase 5 (10 August)

  • Some larger social gatherings will be allowed, with restrictions in place.
  • On a phased basis, schools and universities can start to reopen.
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Probably been mentioned already but social distancing will apply in all cases
 
davek said:
This staged release of the lock down in Ireland seems eminently sensible.

Mind you, you can only do it if you've flattened out the case numbers of this virus.


From May, the five phases of lockdown easing in Ireland are:

Phase 1 (18 May)

  • Outdoor meetings of up to four people from different households will be allowed and childcare for healthcare workers will be opened.
  • Outdoor work, such as construction and gardening, to resume.
  • Some shops, such as those selling stationery and IT equipment and opticians can also reopen.
  • Retail outlets that are primarily outdoors, such as garden centres, hardware stores and repair shops can reopen.
  • Current rules restricting funerals up to 10 people still apply.
  • Schools and college buildings will reopen to teachers only.
Phase 2 (8 June)

  • Visits to a different household by groups of up to four people will be allowed, as long as they maintain a 2-metre distance from those they don’t live with.
  • Small retail outlets can open with physical distancing measures in place.
  • Libraries can open again.


Phase 3 (29 June)

  • Sporting events can resume behind closed doors.
  • Cafes and restaurants can reopen with physical distancing measures and strict cleaning protocols.
  • Playgrounds can reopen.
  • Those with low levels of interaction in their jobs can return to work.
  • Non-essential retail, such as clothes shops, can reopen, but this is limited to those with street-level entrances and does not include shops inside shopping centres.
Phase 4 (20 July)

  • Movement beyond a 20km radius will be allowed.
  • Small social gatherings by family and close friends, including small weddings and baptisms, will be allowed with a maximum number of attendees and physical distancing in place.
  • Larger numbers can visit another household for a limited period of time, while maintaining physical distancing.
  • Those who cannot work at home can return to work.
  • Museums, galleries and churches can reopen.
Phase 5 (10 August)

  • Some larger social gatherings will be allowed, with restrictions in place.
  • On a phased basis, schools and universities can start to reopen.
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Publicans looking to open on the 29th June with strict social distancing
www.thejournal.ie

No live music and limited toilet access: publicans groups' radical plans to allow bars to re-open early

Health minister Simon Harris said that the government is open to talking to publicans.
www.thejournal.ie www.thejournal.ie
 
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