Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Aberblue]

And poverty and mental illness. If a lockdown ever happens again, it has to be done differently for sure. In a way that shields the old and vulnerable but keeps the economy and some forms of social life ticking as normal

I think most people would agree with that - do you have any suggestions as to how this could be done?

 

[tsubaki]

And poverty and mental illness. If a lockdown ever happens again, it has to be done differently for sure. In a way that shields the old and vulnerable but keeps the economy and some forms of social life ticking as normal

You’ve got that backwards - society has to get to a point where most people can have enough security so that if the unexpected happens they can cope with it - that their businesses don’t crash, that they don’t lose their homes and self-esteem and do on.

Huge swathes of our economy seem to have been dependent on nothing bad happening to survive (never mind succeed). Since bad things happen al the time, this was never sustainable. This has to be fixed, otherwise the next time this happens we will be in even worse trouble.

 

[Billy Dean]

Another example of Brussels oppressing EU member states

 

[whiteshadow]

Another example of Brussels oppressing EU member states

They're stockpiling masks to help member states and you have a problem with that?

How is that oppressive exactly?

 

[PhilM]

Compliance is compliance. But non compliance comes in many different forms with varying risk factors. People in general are often too quick to judge others when employing zero tolerance

I agree with this to an extent, but the law is based on precedent. Would the example above set a dangerous precedent if it was allowed: is it necessary or exercise?

Nobody wants a scenario where fines are being imposed needlessly or people going through the courts, and we certainly don't have zero tolerance here in the UK.

Provide advice and suggest compliance and most will; if they don't that's what the law is for. It's a situation where we need common-sense but also consistency.

 

[jamieni]

I wasn't actually referring to the BBC article. It was a jokey reply to LLs earlier mother hen comment but for some reason the post wasn't kinked.

As regards the BBC article I think some people are handling the lockdown better than others. My missus suffers from depression and really bad mood swings. On bad days, which imaybe 3 or 4 times a month, we go for a long walk, or sometimes a drive if her back is playing up. We don't drive far from the house, maybe 10 miles radius. It's all countryside and the country lanes are empty. We don't visit other people and we always practice social distancing.

We maybe do this a couple of times a month. I know what we are doing is considered non essential travel, but to us it is essential to my wife's well being, and as we are not risking either ourselves or others I'm of the view that our actions are justified. I'm succinctly aware there will be many on here who'll disagree with me. I know our local police would as they've issued more lockdown fines than any other force

My wife had post-natal depression when our son was born and I’m accutely aware of the impact of lockdown on her mental health. She takes herself off for a drive in the countryside on occasions but never gets out of the car. I’m not necessarily comfortable with it in case she gets stopped but at the same time I accept that this situation is so much harder on her, especially since as a musician she can’t work.

 

[tsubaki]

They're stockpiling masks to help member states and you have a problem with that?

How is that oppressive exactly?

Now that there’s a lot less air travel, it’s a lot easier to see the point fly over people’s heads.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Shows you how well prepared the German's were: Bayer Leverkusen had their own Pandemic Doctor in place 4 years ago.

One of their football clubs was better organised than our government.

They were organised alright.
Reading quotes from Johnsons interview in the Scum on Sunday (curious choice), he himself was in denial about the virus even when thousands were dying, that's until he himself was struck down with it.

 

[davek]

They were organised alright.
Reading quotes from Johnsons interview in the Scum on Sunday (curious choice), he himself was in denial about the virus even when thousands were dying, that's until he himself was struck down with it.

His major task now is to cover up the failure to protect the nation early enough and to downgrade the efforts of governments of other nations which did...something a few on here seem intent on helping him with.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

His major task now is to cover up the failure to protect the nation early enough and to downgrade the efforts of governments of other nations which did...something a few on here seem intent on helping him with.

Indeed the Stepford Tories... We are well and truly on Hillsborough Grenfell of shifting and ring fencing blame...

Actually also believe it's a case, Of how Johnson can spin this particular scenario to their advantages when flogging off the NHS to Trump in trade talks...

 

[whiteshadow]

Now that there’s a lot less air travel, it’s a lot easier to see the point fly over people’s heads.

Wasn't talking to you anyway.

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed the Stepford Tories... We are well and truly on Hillsborough Grenfell of shifting and ring fencing blame...

Actually also believe it's a case, Of how Johnson can spin this particular scenario to their advantages when flogging off the NHS to Trump in trade talks...

The thing that does my head in is that no hacks that I’ve seen have contrasted what the Government said at the time with what they are saying now. The two sets of statements can’t both be true.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The thing that does my head in is that no hacks that I’ve seen have contrasted what the Government said at the time with what they are saying now. The two sets of statements can’t both be true.

Crace from the Guardian and Morgan on ITV and musings in Daily mail. They have both called Johnson the bull*******, in recent days.That's a broad swipe to get from ideological opposed papers, the tide is turning, however, it will take time to get a balance back.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I lolled a Jeremy...

‘Mum is in touch with this underground network of hairdressers who have been working from home.’

We can ourselves 'the shadow barbers'

 

[Brisan123]

Us gentlemen of more modest stature can do that already. Huzzah.

By modest stature do you mean short arse lol