Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Underlines the huge challenges the NHS will face for some time to come. We have a responsibility to not unduly burden it in the coming years and take care of ourselves.

I‘ve stopped drinking pints of pedigree and now only drink 500ml bottles of pedigree, every little helps.....
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Bolsonaro is publicly lynched after this.
He’s still got loads of hardcore support. Similar to Trump in many ways. What could possibly change your mind about someone if you’ve backed them this far? Should he be forced out, his deputy is military and lots of people are scared of him getting in. Absolute shitshow there. I think it might end up worst hit globally.
 
Half empty restaurants then ?
With staff on full pay, rent and overheads etc ?
It just can't work that.
Same as an ale house.
How do you control the bogs etc ?

Dont know if the govt could still say help the businesses out with a percentage grant or something but surely anything is better than them being completely shut for months on end causing economic disaster?
 
"We're definitely seeing people whose symptoms last longer than two weeks," Dr. Nate Favini, the medical lead at Forward, a primary-care practice that's collecting data on coronavirus patients around the country, told Business Insider. Favini treats coronavirus patients in San Francisco.

He said the CDC has been "very slow to update their guidance on symptoms."

"It's hard to say what percent of people have symptoms that last beyond two weeks, but we're definitely observing that as a not-uncommon phenomenon," he said. "The virus causes all kinds of inflammation and dysregulation in your body and it can take even longer, after you've cleared the virus, for all of those things to go back to normal."
 
Found this an interesting study on transmission from Taiwan who appear to have handled their outbreak well, their quarantine period is 14 days too.
Our analysis of close contacts to confirmed COVID-19 cases revealed a relatively short infectious period of COVID-19 and a higher transmission risk around the time of symptom onset of the index case, followed by a lower transmission risk at the later stage of disease. The observed decreasing transmission risk over time for COVID-19 was in striking contrast to the transmission pattern of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), in which the transmission risk remained low until after day 5 of symptom onset in the index cases.20 Our study and the study by Nishiura et al4 revealed a short serial interval of COVID-19, with a median of 4 to 5 days. In contrast, the mean serial interval of SARS was estimated to be 8.4 days in Singapore.20 The present contact tracing analysis suggested that the shorter serial interval of COVID-19 was due to the combination of early-stage transmission and a short period of infectiousness.

The observed pattern of the secondary clinical attack rate over time was also consistent with the quantitative data of the SARS-CoV-2 viral shedding in upper respiratory specimens, which has been found in China to be a high viral load around the time of symptom onset, followed by a gradual decrease in viral shedding to a low level after 10 days.5 The viral load was similar among asymptomatic, minimally symptomatic, and symptomatic patients. Another virological study in patients with COVID-19 in Germany also found no viable isolates of the virus after the first week of symptoms.21 Our findings agree with the virological data on high transmissibility of COVID-19 in the first week after the onset of symptoms and decreased risk afterwards.21 We also documented and quantified the transmission potential of COVID-19 in a subgroup of contacts whose exposure occurred exclusively during the presymptomatic period of the index case. Our analysis revealed a similar clinical attack rate between the contacts who only had presymptomatic exposure and those who had postsymptomatic exposure.

Cheers Legs ;)
 
Big Afro-Caribbean community where I live, and it's noticeable that while mask wearing seems hugely popular, so too does gathering in large groups (especially among men). Not saying they gather due to being emboldened by the masks, the gatherings would be common anyway, but they don't seem to have got the notion of social distancing.
Well, there's also the possibility that wearing a mask gives a false sense of security and it compromises social distancing. But isn't it the task of government to take a message to the public and ram it home...as per the 'stay home. protect the NHS. save lives' message? Hugely effective (too effective it could be argued)

If social distancing is breaking down a bit then that's due to conflicting messages given by the government: they advise us to remain at a 2 metre distance when out for essential tasks; but it's all too vague in terms of what is essential and how long we should be out for. If there's clarity of message and its reasonably enforced most people will accept it. Masks + social distancing + testing gets us some wriggle room to establish (horrendous terminology) "The New Normal".
 
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