Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

How are people finding GOT without the footy?

On leave this week, so experiencing lock down for the first time it's an odd experience to be fair. Even did a click and collect at Morrys, nice not to queue.

 

[blulouie]

How are people finding GOT without the footy?

Peaceful.

 

[whiteshadow]

There are valid questions about China data, which is why I said it would be interesting to see if pattern holds in other countries. However I also don’t automatically dismiss everything that comes out of there, at least in raising questions on base assumptions, particularly as we have very limited data set of countries that have passed through the bulk of their first wave. I’d love to see the same analysis on South Korea data for instance.

And just because a hypothesis seems “common sense” doesn’t mean it is necessarily correct or even if correct it is not overwhelmed by other factors - you test it against data.

Why is every country social distancing if it isn't common sense that the experts agree on?

Even Sweden are social distancing. China's experts know something everyone else doesn't?

 

[dead_soft]

It doesn’t, I was bored.....

Weird way to spell wrong

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Yikes, let's hope it is hypothetical, and none went into use!

Coronavirus: Hundreds of ventilators UK bought from China 'are wrong type and could kill patients if used'

"We believe that if used, significant patient harm, including death, is likely," the letter from senior doctors says.

news.sky.com

 

[LinekersLegs]

Why is every country social distancing if it isn't common sense that the experts agree on?

Even Sweden are social distancing. China's experts know something everyone else doesn't?

Sorry, I did not make myself clear.

In an uncontrolled environment when no-one knows about the it agree that how a virus spread means that high population places would be hit harder and indeed I expected that to play out throughout the outbreak myself

But once a country knows about it that doesn’t necessarily mean the same still applies and that was what the World Bank was exploring. In theory it might still be the same - after all even with social distancing you’d probably see more people going out to a grocery store in an urban area than a rural one. But it might be that there was better testing rates available in a rich, high density area compared to a lower density one that enabled earlier quarantine. Or better compliance with lockdown because of being able to work from home with better internet access or getting deliveries of food or other factors like mask wearing or even obeying lockdown orders.

San Francisco for instance is up there as one of the most dense population cities US.

List of United States cities by population density - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yet despite being very close ties Santa Clara where the first US deaths were and an outbreak likely spread for quite a while undetected it has a very low number of deaths - 25 in a city of over 800,000

Department of Public Health - Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

www.sfdph.org

In comparison Boston has less population, spread out over a bigger area and yet a significantly worse death toll of 340

COVID-19

Everyone ages 6 months and older should stay up to date on COVID-19 vaccines, which provide the best protection against infection, severe illness, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19. It is strongly recommended for children between 6 and 23 months, adults 65 and older, healthcare workers...

www.boston.gov

There are undoubtably many different variables - SF put in lockdown about a week before Boston, weather, how recording deaths, % of vulnerable people may be different factors that are at play.

But overall there so far seems to be pretty weak correlation between population density and outbreak which I find intriguing and which is why I was interested in the China data that seemed to further raise questions if populatiom density was a significant factor.

 

[Agent Blue]

The British Banana Republic gratefully receives any aid from our friends in the international community.

Get that Geldof feller on the blower.............we need a concert!

 

[Agent Blue]

However RTA deaths are way down

And shoplifting apparently.

 

[Dharma]

The fact that it seems we’re getting towards the end of this is massively grating on some of the more mentally unhinged among us, it seems.

Only the mentally unhinged would believe that statement.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Yikes, let's hope it is hypothetical, and none went into use!

Coronavirus: Hundreds of ventilators UK bought from China 'are wrong type and could kill patients if used'

"We believe that if used, significant patient harm, including death, is likely," the letter from senior doctors says.

news.sky.com

Someone in procurement needs to be shot if that is true. After the Dyson fiasco and that something that rhymes with mucking fuppets comes to mind.

 

[zzr45]

Only the mentally unhinged would believe that statement.

So deaths, hospital admissions etc. aren’t going down? We aren’t closer to the end of lockdown than the start of it?

As all your posts in this thread have been apocalyptic in nature I’d love to hear your reasoning.

 

[riddick]

Differing levels of testing will likely play a part but seems the issue is now more inland than on the coasts where the US outbreak started.

a) YAY! My state is in the top one! All those people protesting REALLY made a stand!

b) where the F*** is Georgia in EITHER of them??

 

[zzr45]

Passing 1 million people that have recovered from this, which is probably massively under reported.

 

[Number_25]

Passing 1 million people that have recovered from this, which is probably massively under reported.

I've not kept up to date with the UK death toll, how's that looking?

 

[zzr45]

I've not kept up to date with the UK death toll, how's that looking?

-53.