Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Neiler said:
Thats a bit silly though mate. You can care about something like elder abuse as a macro national issue or even human rights international issue, without having to go micro on it and accuse of some macabre voyeurism. I care about people in care homes in the UK and i'm not even in the UK.
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Universal morality is a commodity in the UK...
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Honest question, why do people care? It just seems so strange to be hanging on the edge of your sofa at 5pm to hear the latest death stats. If things are happening in your social circle then of course, it's important, but drooling over these national stats like it's the World Cup is just odd.
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Yeah why should I care about issues that don’t directly affect me. Like poverty or disease or domestic violence or child abuse or slavery.
Just really weird to care about things that are outside my direct social circle.
 
Chris O'Connor said:
Again you state a fact 'tens of thousands of people are dying here' yes and its a catastrophe - agreed of course it is!

But that doesn't stop easy comparisons between absolutely different countries with completely different demographics being made and conclusions drawn from them, does it?

Why would you want incorrect and unsound comparisons to be made?

The important point is to save as many as possible and to adopt best practice by seeing what works and what doesn't, we need clarity and level playing fields to scientifically adjudicate on whether something improves the situation.

By using factors which have a high correlation to death rate in combination with absolute figures, the exceptions to the pattern like Germany, South Korea and (negatively) Sweden stand out more NOT less.

We can look at those countries that broke the trend and what worked there.

Don't worry I don't take it personally as I know its only you again and should know the tenor and tone of your posts by now.

Good facts help not hinder, they're not insulting and certainly don't do a disservice to the forum.
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The undermining of comparison's has been weaponised to detract from what is, without a shadow of a doubt, a rank national performance by the UK governing class. That's something you should at least acknowledge in your posts. Are you doing it to help out The Johnson Gang? No, I dont think that at all. But the very act of stating that all comparisons are invidious plays into their hands. That's what they want: "Oh, you cant measure this against that, because this is included here and that's not oncluded there...etc etc".

Plough through all that and look at the actual (combined) figures for deaths from Covid19 in this country and tell me there's any mitigating comparison that can be made for the UK Government. You cant. Dont give them succour by going over the top with your methodological arguments.
 
mill said:
Yeah why should I care about issues that don’t directly affect me. Like poverty or disease or domestic violence or child abuse or slavery.
Just really weird to care about things that are outside my direct social circle.
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Ah, so prior to today, you were paying daily attention to domestic violence stats? I doubt that somehow. You missed out climate change and plastic waste though to be truly virtuous.
 
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