Apparently, South Korea is having an increased infection and death rate.
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Apparently, South Korea is having an increased infection and death rate.
Chris O'Connor
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The question of an exit strategy and when will there be one and how will it look, has been a topic in the media recently and with the well reported collapse in the oil price last week, economic matters and can we recover after such huge crisis spending and a worldwide lockdown has been the question.
I must admit to thinking the stock market(s) - since they're global and 24 hrs now - on the verge of a crash only a week ago, but while the oil price continues to cause concern the FTSE100 here has perversely turned higher reaching a seven week high and recovering more than 20% from the March low which is 'bull' market territory, and perhaps the start of a speculative run even higher. The markets nearly always move higher or lower in tandem so pretty much reflected elsewhere.
The only explanation is they're betting on a 'V' shaped recovery where we've hit the bottom with industry and commerce still in sufficiently reasonable shape to respond to the future relaxation of the measures.
Large amounts of cash idle could conceivably fuel a consumer led boom as some return to work in the near future.
Important to note these markets are international in nature and won't just reflect what's going on here.
It seems an extremely optimistic view to me but it's always said they react to what they think is going to happen rather than the situation right now.
So difficult to read and when they do go up to use the old cliché, 'they always climb a wall of fear' with so many predicting the edge of a cliff coming soon - almost at every step of the way up.
I must admit to thinking the stock market(s) - since they're global and 24 hrs now - on the verge of a crash only a week ago, but while the oil price continues to cause concern the FTSE100 here has perversely turned higher reaching a seven week high and recovering more than 20% from the March low which is 'bull' market territory, and perhaps the start of a speculative run even higher. The markets nearly always move higher or lower in tandem so pretty much reflected elsewhere.
The only explanation is they're betting on a 'V' shaped recovery where we've hit the bottom with industry and commerce still in sufficiently reasonable shape to respond to the future relaxation of the measures.
Large amounts of cash idle could conceivably fuel a consumer led boom as some return to work in the near future.
Important to note these markets are international in nature and won't just reflect what's going on here.
It seems an extremely optimistic view to me but it's always said they react to what they think is going to happen rather than the situation right now.
So difficult to read and when they do go up to use the old cliché, 'they always climb a wall of fear' with so many predicting the edge of a cliff coming soon - almost at every step of the way up.
davek
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Dont forget, there's going to be a shake out of their industry too - especially the print media. Less papers bought and read, less advertising revenue. Apart from lackey's in the pocket of Johnson like the Telegraph, I'd expect much more criticism...and if this government deny bosses their "right" to open up for business for much longer the criticism will grow stronger in the media.
You're correct there, however you could argue that as long as the % uptake of tests matches or beats the rise in capacity we will soon be testing enough.
That's not trying to defend a pretty shameful record on testing that we have, but in reality they've focused on capacity and hopefully we'll now see the rise in tests.
Disgruntledgoat
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You're talking an increase in the last 7 days of 67 cases and 8 deaths. The largest single day increase in cases was Monday with 14. Yesterday was 9.
....nooooooooo.
Chewbacca
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I’m interested in the population density of nation states. I take it everyone stands equidistant from each other?
I was in Melbourne earlier in the year and can definitely confirm it has a higher population density than rural Northumberland where I live.
It would seem that to ensure that the UK and US don’t look so terrible is to put all the dead people to one side for a moment whilst looking at the figures.
I was in Melbourne earlier in the year and can definitely confirm it has a higher population density than rural Northumberland where I live.
It would seem that to ensure that the UK and US don’t look so terrible is to put all the dead people to one side for a moment whilst looking at the figures.
He had 2 tests that he refused to publish the results of and went around shaking people’s hands etc. I believe the courts are pushing to find out the results of those tests. Many members of a delegation he was on had previously tested positive.
Horrible individual
Chris O'Connor
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This mixes facts we all agree on such ax 'this had been a catastrophe' with your usual portion of vilification and invective for anyone giving analysis which may not fit your agenda's strict partisan guidelines.
It wasn't even opinion but facts I gave when highlighting how fraught with difficulty comparing across countries actually is.
Doing this isn't insulting, you stretch the limits of credibility so much that calling the difference between night and day can be seen as insulting to you. (If it doesn't fit in with your ideology)
Of course they have to be held to account for errors made (and PPE and testing areas well highlighted) it doesn't do anyone any good to pretend they couldn't have done things a hell of a lot better.
Just these comparisons across countries make very little sense indeed and are fraught with problems as it's plainly not at all like with like.
You're 'doing a disservice to the forum' nonsense is the usual lowest form of attack if you can't attack the post attack the poster.
Sadly I expect it from you.
davek
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Agenda? Tens of thousands of people are dying here and you think I have need to create an agenda to have a go at those in power who are largely responsible for it? All I do is hold a mirror up to these developments and describe them in the only trerms that can possibly apply - catastrophic, disastrous, butchery.
And dont take my post personal, you're not the only one who seeks to add "context" to these appalling national statistics.
peteblue
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They do on the all deaths line, they don’t on the hospital deaths line.....
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