Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Community deaths will be high as well. Anyway, there has been a push in the last 15 20 years to support people in the community as long as possible. And lost count of the people who would rather choose the care setting than be with families...

I went to one about six months back to drop of a letter for a friend who worked there. It was the most dismal and miserable place I’d ever seen. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the staff and folk in there made the best of it, but it depressed the life out of me......
 
If I was in charge of things, and I confess there's not a small amount of selfishness in this:), here is what I'd do.

Down here in Cornwall we've been very lucky with the virus, we've had the fewest fatalities, and the fewest confirmed CV-19 positive per capita, than anywhere else in the country. As of yesterday, we had only 20 people in hospital being treated for the virus across the whole county, and only 4 of these were in ICU. So it's fair to say we're ahead of the curve compared to the rest of the country.

I would start a pilot scheme here, effectively using Cornwall as a guinea pig, testing how things go here before rolling out to the rest of the country. This would be strictly for the locals only and there would have to be strict restrictions on people coming in and out.

So I would lift restrictions in a number of areas, but on the basis that strict social distancing rules, i.e 2 metres apart etc, were complied with in public areas. I would re open retail outlets currently considered non essential, like garden centres, clothes shops, furniture shops etc. Basically on the same basis as supermarkets are now with control on numbers and queuing as required. I would relax the rules on visiting people and would allow family visits and also friends subject to gatherings of maybe 6 maximum (not including children). I would re-open schools. I would allow pubs, restaurants and cafes to open provided they're large enough to manage social distancing. It would have to be table seated only, both inside and out, with strict table service so no queuing at bars. Strict hygiene rules would need to apply where hospitality is concerned. Things like hairdressers, beauty salons etc are more difficult because of social distancing, and if these were opened you would expect masks to be worn by the staff members. Full use of public parks and beaches would also be allowed, again provided social distancing was maintained and groups were kept to a maximum of 6 adults plus children.

I accept all of these things are high risk, but that is what you have to go through to find out if it works. Remember this is a pilot scheme to test the waters and the idea is to try and find out what works and what doesn't before you roll it out to the rest of the country.

The key to this working is testing and contract tracing. There needs to be adequate testing capability set up in the county, so as soon as anybody shows symptoms of CV-19 they are tested. They are also questioned about where they have been and who they have been with. If the test comes back positive, then all those people named are tested/questioned and so forth. Not only will the prompt testing enable us to reduce the spread of the virus, but after a while you will start to build a picture of what is happening and identify how and where the virus is being transmitted between people. So we can identify what is safe to role out to the rest of the country, and what isn't.

This would all take a while before any meaningful information is gathered, at least 3/4 weeks. So I'd start this immediately rather than wait for the end of the current lockdown.

There's probably stuff I've forgotten in there but you get the picture. Would it work?. It's worth a try IMO. Will it happen?. Not a chance in hell :)
The bit in bold is key
I would go further and say Aggressive testing and contract tracing
Use the ARMY for tracing
 
No.

But the people running the country have a choice to ban the biggest killer in the country.

Whole other topic of discussion though. Why governments allow people to smoke knowing full well the long term picture of it rather than ban it outright
This is factually incorrect.
 
The headlines about no gatherings / pubs etc until next year just really peeved me off.

Not saying it cause I'm desperate to go for a pint (I am like) or a gig (I am like) but it's just treating it like this virus is going to decide to stop in January but not December. Utterly daft.

There shouldn't really even be a consideration of another lockdown after this. And I'm not saying I expect this one to be over any time soon. But we should have the capacity to handle a second wave when it comes without locking anything down. The extra hospitals, the PPE, perhaps even as importantly the experience/knowledge of how to treat it. It's been around since late last year and I think that's pretty safe to say based on the number of respiratory deaths back in December and January.

It's obviously going to be a while before there's 'normality' and totally accept that. It'll be pretty ingrained in people when it comes to walking past strangers and stuff - you'll automatically keep your distance.

But if strict measures and bans on gatherings etc are carried on towards the last months of the year or even into next, then I think there really will be a bit more fuel to the fire when it comes to all the conspiracy stuff about just who exactly is benefiting from all of this.
If they open up football grounds will the Park End still be able to BOO effectively wearing face masks lol
 
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