Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

Really sorry to hear that. If that is common place it can only lead to a hardening of the lockdown.

From what I've witnessed personally, down here people are pretty much keeping to the rules. Maybe that's part of the reason why it hasn't been more widespread here.

I really don't know of anyone who has treated this like a bank holiday.

 

[TommyDavo]

Being efficient in testing and treatment in terms of ventilators are THE important things in dealing with this until a vaccine comes.

I resent some 'kin dope like Whitty telling us what we can and cant expect to do for months on end. A volte facing bell end who doesn't know what to be saying next in order to appear relevant.

He should be in jail for his early advice in this crisis.

Comes across as an utter chancer, let’s lock the place down until it’s gone being his latest offering it seems. No Chris, test track, open, test, track open test track ad nauseam

 

[PhilM]

Cannot see how a second wave of the virus can be as bad as the first.

It has already done for many of the most susceptible.
Doctors, scientists and others are learning each day a little more

I think that the lockdown was initiated certainly for these two reasons, amongst others, and we not so far away from easing as some on here think.

There is a serious worry that a new strain emerged, more deadly than the current x-amount of strains, alongside people not following social-distancing guidelines.

I spoke to someone today and their child piped up, "We're on our way back from a family BBQ with all my cousins!" This is not a one-off example either.

I'm not a big social media user but there's a fair few people, who I'd expect to behave better, clearly having people around to their house who they shouldn't have.

Most are behaving, but too many are not! From an NHS perspective, there's a sort of expectation that there'll be a limited rise again during May.

 

[davek]

Don't agree with everything there Dave but I do with the first point and your other one about Whitty in general if not entirely.

In regards to Whitty, he was pressed for a headline today and gave one. He should be better than that but the journalists got what they wanted from him.

Because cases and deaths flattening isn't as interesting.

Which underlines the credibility of the man.

 

[davek]

Comes across as an utter chancer, let’s lock the place down until it’s gone being his latest offering it seems. No Chris, test track, open, test, track open test track ad nauseam

Spot on mate.

He's a quack without any sort of gravitas.

He made a calamitous call early on in this crisis. He should have resigned. The fact he didn't and now pushes the complete opposite policy is disgraceful.

What is it with these people? They just cant act with honour.

 

[BrendanGOT]

The headlines about no gatherings / pubs etc until next year just really peeved me off.

Not saying it cause I'm desperate to go for a pint (I am like) or a gig (I am like) but it's just treating it like this virus is going to decide to stop in January but not December. Utterly daft.

There shouldn't really even be a consideration of another lockdown after this. And I'm not saying I expect this one to be over any time soon. But we should have the capacity to handle a second wave when it comes without locking anything down. The extra hospitals, the PPE, perhaps even as importantly the experience/knowledge of how to treat it. It's been around since late last year and I think that's pretty safe to say based on the number of respiratory deaths back in December and January.

It's obviously going to be a while before there's 'normality' and totally accept that. It'll be pretty ingrained in people when it comes to walking past strangers and stuff - you'll automatically keep your distance.

But if strict measures and bans on gatherings etc are carried on towards the last months of the year or even into next, then I think there really will be a bit more fuel to the fire when it comes to all the conspiracy stuff about just who exactly is benefiting from all of this.

The lockdown in its current form can't happen again. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but the world economy was heading towards bust again like 08, nothing changed after that just continued with the same economic practices that got us there in the first place. Therefore the lockdowns suit them and they can blame the economic collapse that was looming anyway on the Coronavirus now. We're going to be paying for this for 10 to 20 years another lockdown after 6 months would add how many more years onto that?

If they want more lockdowns then the worlds current economic systems needs uprooted, scraped and changed.

 

[Harryflashman]

Yep, what people need to realise is that the whole point in the lockdown was to flatten the curve, something we appear to have done.

Life has to go on, the lockdown is basically voluntary, there is still a huge amount of people working and as long as a very high percentage of people follow the rules, its fine.

The vaccine isnt coming any time soon, so we cant put the world on hold till it does, the only real option going forward is a phased reopening, then see how we get on, we cant prevent the 2nd wave, its coming, we just have to hope its not worse than the first would have been if we didnt lockdown.

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[The Penalty Box Dancer]

There's never a clear answer from any of these politicians. They use the term 'social disruptions' and the only way out of lockdown is a vaccine or drugs.

I'm assuming social disruption means we'll have work places open but nothing for leisure

 

[Barnfred 55]

Reading your post it occurs to me that the government has got it all wrong.
Looking at the figures they should forget all the laboratories and testing centres it's Greggs and Sayers they need to to be talking to the answer is starring them in face.
Cornish Pasties

Mate, Cornish Pasties may well act as a vaccine for CV-19, but don't assume that Greggs or Sayers versions would do the same. There really is no comparison
lol

 

[BlueToff]

The lockdown in its current form can't happen again. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but the world economy was heading towards bust again like 08, nothing changed after that just continued with the same economic practices that got us there in the first place. Therefore the lockdowns suit them and they can blame the economic collapse that was looming anyway on the Coronavirus now. We're going to be paying for this for 10 to 20 years another lockdown after 6 months would add how many more years onto that?

If they want more lockdowns then the worlds current economic systems needs uprooted, scraped and changed.

Well while I sort of agree they need to be uprooted and changed I actually think that if there is any conspiracy behind this virus - which I don't think there is, but I do think that if we see a continued effort to force governments into continued lockdown then there could well be something in the reaction to this pandemic which isn't right (I already think something doesn't sit right) - then it could actually be to uproot the current system. But I don't necessarily think that would be for the better.

In other words, look at who is benefiting from this. At the moment, it's tech companies and we look like we could be heading for a world which really, really will be controlled by tech. And if they have everybody at home, it's much easier to control.

Like I said, I don't see there being any conspiracy behind the virus itself. It happens.

But the reaction to the virus/how to treat it has been so shambolic that it's there to be taken advantage of.

 

[davek]

So Germany is making it compulsory to wear face masks...but the United Kingdom Banana Republic still wont advocate it because they're being led by the science...the science headed up by two discredited chuckle heads called Whitty and Vallance.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The inevitable manoeuvring of blame began today between Minister's and the Science...

Asked by Keir Starmer at PMQs if the UK had been "slow" to act, Dominic Raab namechecked Whitty and Vallance as he insisted the UK had been "guided by the science"

At tonight's press conference Whitty repeatedly stressed that decisions were for ministers.

Let the blame game begin...

 

[blue to the bone]

@Toast
World snooker provisionally fixed for July 31st .

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There is a serious worry that a new strain emerged, more deadly than the current x-amount of strains, alongside people not following social-distancing guidelines.

I spoke to someone today and their child piped up, "We're on our way back from a family BBQ with all my cousins!" This is not a one-off example either.

I'm not a big social media user but there's a fair few people, who I'd expect to behave better, clearly having people around to their house who they shouldn't have.

Most are behaving, but too many are not! From an NHS perspective, there's a sort of expectation that there'll be a limited rise again during May.

People are hugely slacking imo.

 

[LinekersLegs]