Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Paris]

Nobody has ever defended the CCP. Like Trump himself you are twisting the facts to suit your own purposes. Link me to one post where I, or anyone did such a thing, and if you want to act tough, and call people out then name a few names next time, and discuss it with them openly.

The ironic thing about people like yourself is that you don't seem to realize how alike you are to the very same nationalists you are raging against.

What people like myself did say is that the measures the Chinese (and many Asian countries) adopted worked very well, and politics be damned, that should be acknowledged/imitated.

Not just me either, this doctor is saying the same thing as well. Stop bringing politics into it.



You might not realize this, or care, but when you name a virus 'Chinese' anything, even if you put 'government' in there alongside, Asian people on the ground in the UK will have to suffer the consequences of that.

Chinese businesses are going bust. A Chinese student the other day had his jaw broken by morons who blamed him (of course its just an excuse) for the virus. Such Neanderthals do not have the capacity to distinguish between a countries' government, or its citizens.

Thus you're playing into the hands of the CCP Propagandists. I have never seen you criticise the Chinese government, instead, every single post I've seen from you is you supporting them.

As for the part in bold, of course I realise that there are complete idiots on the ground here in the UK who are incapable of separating the Chinese people and the Chinese government. I have fully lambasted those dolts in earlier posts. However, I will not give the CCP a free pass for the death, illness, misery and global economic depression that their initial response, which was extremely slow and lax, has brought onto the world. You may want to and that's your prerogative, but it certainly isn't mine and any other persons who has been following the spread of the virus from its very early reporting back in December.

 

[alvinh]

Especially when it's airborne, I mean it helps, but surely now we should have learned some lessons off the Chinese, like building pop up hospitals as such. All seems so complacent from the government, especially as your Health bloody minister has just caught it.

This article outlines the thinking behind the UK govt approach:

Keep Calm and Wash Your Hands: Britain’s Strategy to Beat Virus

While China quarantined 56 million people and the whole of Italy is on lock down to counter the spread of coronavirus, the U.K. is taking a radically different approach. Instead of keeping people inside their homes, Boris Johnson’s government is trying to get inside their heads.

www.bloomberg.com

“The models rest heavily on what people will do,” Halpern said in an interview. “Will people comply with instructions, and to what extent? If kids don’t go to school, what will happen?”

An unintended outcome of closing schools, he said, could be children spending more time with grandparents -- potentially putting a group the government especially wants to protect from infection at more risk.

In the same way, banning people from attending sports events, where scientists regard an infectious person as unlikely to pass the disease to very many around them, could be counter-productive if people instead watch matches in pubs, where the disease is more likely to spread.


Another risk is imposing restrictions too early in the outbreak, leading to people becoming fatigued and ignoring instructions when it matters.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Big jump that to be fair

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Even in Italy, for every million people in their country, 999,832 aren't yet known to be infected.
(unless you know that number won't change, it is meaningless)

That's the spirit.

 

[peteblue]

Even in Italy, for every million people in their country, 999,832 aren't yet known to be infected.
(unless you know that number won't change, it is meaningless)

Always look on the bright side of life, de do, de do, de do de do.....

 

[alvinh]

Thus you're playing into the hands of the CCP Propagandists. I have never seen you criticise the Chinese government, instead, every single post I've seen from you is you supporting them.

As for the part in bold, of course I realise that there are complete idiots on the ground here in the UK who are incapable of separating the Chinese people and the Chinese government. I have fully lambasted those dolts in earlier posts. However, I will not give the CCP a free pass for the death, illness, misery and global economic depression that their initial response, which was extremely slow and lax, has brought onto the world. You may want to and that's your prerogative, but it certainly isn't mine and any other persons who has been following the spread of the virus from its very early reporting back in December.

I've posted a few pages back some of the risk factors in China that contributed to the virus and I condemn any politicised crowing from China on the responses of other governments. By all means hold the CCP to account for their failings.

Still, this really is a time for seeking unity and cooperation, not pointing fingers. The disease may have come from the markets of Wuhan, but the industry and application that the Chinese employed in building those hospitals from scratch will be needed both there and elsewhere in the time to come.

We need China's matchless capacity for mass production to help make the masks, ventilators and other resources that the world is going to need and ultimately, the vaccines or antiviral treatments as and when they're developed.

We are in for a very testing time but on the other side of it I hope we all have a new sense of our shared humanity and that the things which divide us, things which seem so very important on a day to day basis, are as nothing when viewed in the context of a global threat like Covid 19.

 

[b-rad]

That's the spirit.

Always look on the bright side of life, de do, de do, de do de do.....

Better than "I'm alive now, so who cares about the future or about anyone else", no?
It's going to get a lot worse, globally and in the UK, before it get's better - so I don't really see the point in saying "hooray, 66,728,419 people in the UK didn't die of Covid-19 today!"

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Did you get tested?

I requested through work and my doctor and was told there was no need.

 

[peteblue]

I requested through work and my doctor and was told there was no need.

Because they knew you had it....

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Because they knew you had it....

This was waaay back in the innocent days of early February. I think they thought I was merely paranoid.

 

[Paris]

I've posted a few pages back some of the risk factors in China that contributed to the virus and I condemn any politicised crowing from China on the responses of other governments. By all means hold the CCP to account for their failings.

Still, this really is a time for seeking unity and cooperation, not pointing fingers. The disease may have come from the markets of Wuhan, but the industry and application that the Chinese employed in building those hospitals from scratch will be needed both there and elsewhere in the time to come.

We need China's matchless capacity for mass production to help make the masks, ventilators and other resources that the world is going to need and ultimately, the vaccines or antiviral treatments as and when they're developed.

We are in for a very testing time but on the other side of it I hope we all have a new sense of our shared humanity and that the things which divide us, things which seem so very important on a day to day basis, are as nothing when viewed in the context of a global threat like Covid 19.

I agree, which is why I shake my head in disbelief when I see the CCP try and use the virus to suit their own agenda. There are books now being published in China on how Xi Jinping 'defeated' the virus. In addition, they're now calling it the 'Italian Virus', before that, they tried to rename it the 'Korean Virus' and the 'Japanese Virus' when it had spread to those two countries. All aimed of course on maintaining the 'Mandate of Heaven'.

 

[peteblue]

Better than "I'm alive now, so who cares about the future or about anyone else", no?
It's going to get a lot worse, globally and in the UK, before it get's better - so I don't really see the point in saying "hooray, 66,728,419 people in the UK didn't die of Covid-19 today!"

Look, the worst that can happen is that you catch it and die, but at least you don’t get to see the RS pick up another title......

 

[peteblue]

This was waaay back in the innocent days of early February. I think they thought I was merely paranoid.

Glad you got through it anyway....

 

[Billy Dean]

1700 cases now in Germany. Up from 1200 yesterday.

 

[b-rad]

Look, the worst that can happen is that you catch it and die, but at least you don’t get to see the RS pick up another title......

The worst case is you catch it, pass it on to your family and friends, recover, but watch everyone else you know die AND the RS pick up another title.

Yes, I'm a glass half empty kind of guy.