The problem for me is that they've been scared to speak truth to power. So they've been political pawns whether they intended to be or not.
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The problem for me is that they've been scared to speak truth to power. So they've been political pawns whether they intended to be or not.
davek
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What does that prove? He's still reliant on Johnson for his post and so too is the other witch doctor Vallance.
There's a problem there now: these people have feet of clay, they've been shown to do u-turns, and that does nothing for public confidence. They'll have to be replaced. The bigger question is whether this goes that badly that Johnson is stood down by the Tories.
roydo
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Or they saw the medical evidence alter so altered their advice? I havnt seen anyone hung out to dry. I have seen a collective response, where the medical experts out perform the politicians.
Nah if you read that Times report it makes it clear that they acted slow to be definitive, particularly in terms of raising the "threat level" advice.
Whitty in particular comes out of this looking dreadful.
roydo
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You are going down a rabbit hole on this mate. And fast.
roydo
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Havnt read it. Dont read the Mail neither.
Not saying the Government have been great. Just responding to Dave that he is talking riddles.
davek
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Me and the Sunday Times.
The people at the top have made a huge bollocks of this. There's no disputing that. If they continue apace they'll struggle to hold on.
Sadly yes as would mean high number of ill/dead per % of population exposed.
Germany is rolling out a large testing which will give us more reliable data in coming weeks.
In Gangelt, a small town of about 12,000 in northwest Germany, tests of a first group of 500 residents found that 14 percent had antibodies to the virus. Another 2 percent tested positive for the coronavirus, raising hopes that about 15 percent of the local population may already have some degree of immunity. “The process toward reaching herd immunity has begun,” Prof. Hendrik Streeck, director of the Institute of Virology at the University Hospital Bonn, who is leading the study, said in an interim report. And even if 15 percent of Gangelt has some degree of immunity, levels of immunity are almost certain to be lower elsewhere in the country.
Gangelt was hit early and exceptionally hard by the virus following a carnival event in mid-February that acted as a super spreader. But it may hold valuable insights for places that lag behind as the pandemic runs its course.
The mortality rate in the town, for example, turned out to be 0.37 percent, much lower than the national rate of 3 percent which is calculated based only on detected infections.
davek
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You REALLY need to read that Sunday Times article. It's probably the most important piece of journalism by the MSM in this country in decades.
roydo
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Lob in Piers Morgan and a Daily Mail headline as a source, and I think we have some sort of shark jumped now.
Jenny Harris sounded like a press officer today, absolutely depressing stuff that stank of being firmly on cummings script
davek
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They can come and test away as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who'd object to that need locking up.
roydo
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She made such a monumental balls up of her previous advice - particularly Cheltenham - that's it's in her own interests now to rewrite history by towing the party line.
A Prof from Oxford working on a vaccine said today that herd immunity via contracting the virus is unlikely to be effective as immunity seems to be short lived. Vaccine a better bet as it should confer immunity for at least a year or so, based on similar vaccines they have developed.
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