Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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These are the points that I am seeing raised most of all, on other media. I think it is important to underline that the cheap chinese labour market is somewhat of a variant in the modern global supply chain, as I believe that wages there have increased dramatically over the last couple of decades. I am also interested to see whether globalisation continues at the rate it has so far if the cheap labour moves elsewhere, as pandemics need not only start in China.

Cheap Labour always moves around the planet, India being next. Pandemics don’t start because of manufacturing, unless it was a lab based virus, but the standards of hygiene within countries. The spread is amplified by the manufacturing and people connections.....pandemics are now in the minds of people and no doubt they will prepare for the next one.....
 
The whole world was prepared for a flu pandemic, nobody was prepared for Cov-19 tho, mainly due to it not being anything remotely like the Flu.

That's actually why I personally dismissed it - I expected a mutated influenza to cause this level of damage, not a cold virus.
 
 
I think China will rightly be ostracised and their inability to tell the truth will remain in the memories of the west. The Western nations who have been living off the back of cheap Chinese imports will start to reclaim strategic manufacturing. Chinese investment in key areas, Nuclear, Science based companies, will be reviewed in much greater detail. They will not be allowed into Western 5G networks. Governments will re-look at Health provision, ICU capacities, and the strategic re-use of pop up hospitals. Border control and airport management will be put higher up in the emergency response action plan and will be tightened up anyway.Economic disaster planning requires joined up National and International collaboration. The EU doesn’t work when quick decisions are required and the ‘more Europe’ approach may be rethought. The conservatives will have learnt many lessons of the things they did right, financial support for businesses and workers, and things they did wrong PHE planning.....
And I won't be going for me Sweet and Sour pork
 
It would have been, but you knew who had tested positive first. If you didn't get that information and only got an anoymised alert, how would you know whether it was the colleague, someone you'd been sat near on a bus or train, someone in a queue to go into Sainsburys etc etc. If it told you exactly when and where the contact was, in what way is it anonymised?

It still doesn’t matter mate, my colleague could have caught it off bobo the clown at a children’s birthday party. They may have caught it in their clinical role. Once they are positive or get an alert from the app they become patient zero and you test, contact trace and so on until you break the chain.

So if you get an alert you won’t know where you got exposed, on the train, asda or of a neighbour, you become patient zero and you need to isolate and be tested before you give it to your nan or your parents for example. It attempts to break the chain, not tell you who gave it you.

From a practical point of view it would be gift, it’s a hard job contact tracing, the investigating, tracking down and importantly explains to people and their family that they may or may not have been exposed. It takes huge resources out of health care that can be better spent, based on my experience above. Data from an app would have been a god send.
 
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If this doesn't teach the public and politicians that the NHS staff are a crucial investment and not a millstone nothing ever will. All of them heroes beyond my ability to quantify it properly, lets hope they get the support many will undoubtedly need after this is finally over

Boris: I owe them my life

RNs/EMTs: quite a bit of us didn't make it, can we at least be paid middle class wages?

Boris: what if i just say protect the NHS over and over again without meaning it at all?
 
Please stop, this is utterly painful. You tried to use medical students being encouraged to fill auxiliary roles as proof as unqualified doctors working as Doctors. This is not the case.
And if the the NHS was adequately funded there would have been no need for any of this!
 
Cheap Labour always moves around the planet, India being next. Pandemics don’t start because of manufacturing, unless it was a lab based virus, but the standards of hygiene within countries. The spread is amplified by the manufacturing and people connections.....pandemics are now in the minds of people and no doubt they will prepare for the next one.....
My final point is about globalisation rather than specifically manufacturing. I suppose by extension my final point is also about neoliberalism, but that is for the other thread.
 
And if the the NHS was adequately funded there would have been no need for any of this!
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No.

Unless you had an NHS that was being run at Pandemic levels 365 days a year, forced people to study medicine as there’s a lack of numbers entering the system and had a memorandum of understanding that there would never be a new virus ever again.
 
That Boris Johnson thing was a lie, don’t care what anyone says. He looks as fit as a fiddle giving interviews now.

He’s been taken out of the spotlight before it hits the fan and now the narrative is that he’s in it with us.
 
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