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[Lanolin]

Police ‘days away’ from checking shopping trolleys as lockdown rules flouted

A police chief has said his force is only “a few days away” from introducing measures such as road blocks and searching shopping trolleys as people continue to flout the coronavirus regulations.

Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley said a “three-week grace period” is over in the county – and the force will now be issuing fines and arresting people breaking the rules.

He said further measures will also be implemented should people continue to flout the regulations – including “marshalling” supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys.

Mr Adderley said forces are “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” when it comes to policing the new rules, and he added that Government guidance on how to police the rules “could be even clearer”.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, he said: “I really need to emphasise the point, this is about saving people’s lives, this is the really serious end of what we do.

“The role of the police is to preserve lives and protect property and we have to do that and we will do that.

“If things don’t improve, and we don’t get the compliance we would expect, then the next stage will be road blocks and it will be stopping people to ask why they are going, where they’re going.

“This is about reasonableness and if people are not reasonable in terms of the journeys and the trips they are taking, they are going to fall foul of the law.

“We will not, at this stage, be setting up road blocks. We will not, at this stage, start to marshal supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.

“But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that.”
He stressed the force is “only a few days away” from that point.

On the clarity of Government guidance on policing the regulations, Mr Adderley said: “The law itself in terms of the five or six points that have come out in terms of the Coronavirus Bill – they are quite simple in terms of their narrative.

“But the interpretation of that is very, very difficult.

“The issue about, what is a necessary item, only go out for necessities – what is a necessity?

“If we’re stopping somebody because they’ve bought a barbecue set or they’ve bought a child’s toy, you could argue that’s not necessary.

“On the other hand, you could argue it absolutely is necessary – because in terms of the mental health and trying to keep people entertained over this period of lockdown, that is very necessary.

“So the nuances and the interpretation is really ambiguous – that’s why I’m saying to officers, use your common sense, use your discretion.

“I think the guidance could be even clearer, but it’s where do you draw the line?”

"Nobody has any idea what is legal and what isn't, but if my definition is different to yours i'll arrest you". Seems reasonable.

 

[navidson]

If they don't want people buying non-essential goods from Supermarkets - Tell the supermarkets to cordon off all of those deemed 'non-essentials'

Otherwise, STFU and stop confusing matters

 

[tsubaki]

Just in Manchester.

Do people really believe the rules are being followed by 98% ?

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would never happen down here - for a start the bouncy castle would get stabbed

 

[Harryflashman]

"Nobody has any idea what is legal and what isn't, but if my definition is different to yours i'll arrest you". Seems reasonable.

total whopper . Seems a superb way to alienate his community

 

[Harryflashman]

If they don't want people buying non-essential goods from Supermarkets - Tell the supermarkets to cordon off all of those deemed 'non-essentials'

Otherwise, STFU and stop confusing matters

spot on

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Policeman been on now, many cars he pulls are either the usual drug dealers still working, or a car full of people in a car stashed with beer driving to a venue to get bevied as they are bored at home in lock down the drug dealers arrested the party goers fined... ........

Drug dealers acting in a way detrimental to society shocker.

So in other words, scumbags who just do what they want regardless and not normal members of the public.

There`s always a way for the police to get them off the streets Joey, they just need to get creative with their powers of arrest

Shocked at the treatment of our heroic keyworkers here.

 

[Joey66]

Nothing too do with nurses like, but erm...


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Poor Nurses ......in today's environment.....

 

[COYBL25]

Just in Manchester.

Do people really believe the rules are being followed by 98% ?

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Without imposing a curfew, how do you police what some idiots are doing in their own homes though ?

Even then, they’ll be at during daylight hours with it being a bank holiday and the weather being nice.

Imagine the uproar if a power of arrest was attached to the lock down rules !!!!

 

[arminisgod]

sorry but that’s ridiculous

Mental. As a manufacturer (sofas) we have today received a letter from the Government telling us there is no restrictions at all on Manufacturing. Key items or not. We could very well open again next week... we have 800 people here.

 

[Walken]

Without imposing a curfew, how do you police what some idiots are doing in their own homes though ?

Even then, they’ll be at during daylight hours with it being a bank holiday and the weather being nice.

Imagine the uproar if a power of arrest was attached to the lock down rules !!!!

Can only speak for where I am (liverpool city center) but people have been fantastic, no large gatherings that I have seen, everyone courteous and well behaved in the supermarkets and extremely grateful to the fantastic staff. People going for a run or walk on their own and giving each other loads of space, its a really really dumb idea to suggest banning localised solo jogs or walks.

Very easy to pin point worst case scenarios and say all people are this or all people are that, but from where I am right now I have seen way over 98% of people pulling together, keeping calm and doing a great job

 

[roydo]

Can only speak for where I am (liverpool city center) but people have been fantastic, no large gatherings that I have seen, everyone courteous and well behaved in the supermarkets and extremely grateful to the fantastic staff. People going for a run or walk on their own and giving each other loads of space, its a really really dumb idea to suggest banning localised solo jogs or walks.

Very easy to pin point work case scenarios and say all people are this or all people are that, but from where I am right now I have seen way over 98% of people pulling together, keeping calm and doing a great job

Same here. M5 is very very quiet again today.

 

[summerisle]

Priorities :

 

[Joey66]

Without imposing a curfew, how do you police what some idiots are doing in their own homes though ?

Even then, they’ll be at during daylight hours with it being a bank holiday and the weather being nice.

Imagine the uproar if a power of arrest was attached to the lock down rules !!!!

Your scared you will get caught with a torch under your bedcovers lol

 

[COYBL25]

Can only speak for where I am (liverpool city center) but people have been fantastic, no large gatherings that I have seen, everyone courteous and well behaved in the supermarkets and extremely grateful to the fantastic staff. People going for a run or walk on their own and giving each other loads of space, its a really really dumb idea to suggest banning localised solo jogs or walks.

Very easy to pin point worst case scenarios and say all people are this or all people are that, but from where I am right now I have seen way over 98% of people pulling together, keeping calm and doing a great job

Exact same here mate - South Liverpool.

Everyday has been like early Sunday mornings, despite the weather being good.

Three of five of the takeaways aren’t even bothering open during the week as there’s just no custom.

 

[COYBL25]

Your scared you will get caught with a torch under your bedcovers lol

You’ve got me mixed up with Boris