Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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"A further 765 patients have died in hospital in England, up from 6,483 the day before. This brings the total to 7,248.

Of the 765 new hospital deaths announced today by NHS England, 140 occurred on April 8 while 568 took place between April 1 and April 7.

The remaining 57 deaths occurred in March, including two on March 19 and one on March 16"


Eh? Have they always been recording the figures this way?

"765 people have died, but we forgot to tell you about 568 of them which happened last week?"
Somehow Finland ended up with a death count of -1 the day.

I assume a lot of that is people dying in care homes/that are being tested postive post mortem. Best get them in before the bank holiday.
 
Somehow Finland ended up with a death count of -1 the day.

I assume a lot of that is people dying in care homes/that are being tested postive post mortem. Best get them in before the bank holiday.

If you can't get the figures right - don't report them

Are they going to focus on the fact that apparently the death count dropped from 828 to 140 in one day? Or would that go against the scaremongering tactics of the national media?
 
But still far more indicative then the Current Affairs forum on here.

Whether you like it or not... People do believe the Government has reacted well. They have bailed out the private sector, issued a far more progressive lockdown than other countries and still aloud freedoms.

How would you have dealt with it?

A lot earlier than UKGov.

 
Police ‘days away’ from checking shopping trolleys as lockdown rules flouted

A police chief has said his force is only “a few days away” from introducing measures such as road blocks and searching shopping trolleys as people continue to flout the coronavirus regulations.

Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley said a “three-week grace period” is over in the county – and the force will now be issuing fines and arresting people breaking the rules.

He said further measures will also be implemented should people continue to flout the regulations – including “marshalling” supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys.

Mr Adderley said forces are “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” when it comes to policing the new rules, and he added that Government guidance on how to police the rules “could be even clearer”.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, he said: “I really need to emphasise the point, this is about saving people’s lives, this is the really serious end of what we do.

“The role of the police is to preserve lives and protect property and we have to do that and we will do that.

“If things don’t improve, and we don’t get the compliance we would expect, then the next stage will be road blocks and it will be stopping people to ask why they are going, where they’re going.

“This is about reasonableness and if people are not reasonable in terms of the journeys and the trips they are taking, they are going to fall foul of the law.

“We will not, at this stage, be setting up road blocks. We will not, at this stage, start to marshal supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.

“But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that.”
He stressed the force is “only a few days away” from that point.

On the clarity of Government guidance on policing the regulations, Mr Adderley said: “The law itself in terms of the five or six points that have come out in terms of the Coronavirus Bill – they are quite simple in terms of their narrative.

“But the interpretation of that is very, very difficult.

“The issue about, what is a necessary item, only go out for necessities – what is a necessity?

“If we’re stopping somebody because they’ve bought a barbecue set or they’ve bought a child’s toy, you could argue that’s not necessary.

“On the other hand, you could argue it absolutely is necessary – because in terms of the mental health and trying to keep people entertained over this period of lockdown, that is very necessary.

“So the nuances and the interpretation is really ambiguous – that’s why I’m saying to officers, use your common sense, use your discretion.

“I think the guidance could be even clearer, but it’s where do you draw the line?”
 
They are just hospital statistics as well arent they?

My understanding is the U.K. arent reporting their community or nursing home fatalities.

Not in the daily statistics, but there are good reasons why they can’t include them (or deaths in the community, of which there probably are quite a few).
 
Police ‘days away’ from checking shopping trolleys as lockdown rules flouted

A police chief has said his force is only “a few days away” from introducing measures such as road blocks and searching shopping trolleys as people continue to flout the coronavirus regulations.

Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley said a “three-week grace period” is over in the county – and the force will now be issuing fines and arresting people breaking the rules.

He said further measures will also be implemented should people continue to flout the regulations – including “marshalling” supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys.

Mr Adderley said forces are “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” when it comes to policing the new rules, and he added that Government guidance on how to police the rules “could be even clearer”.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, he said: “I really need to emphasise the point, this is about saving people’s lives, this is the really serious end of what we do.

“The role of the police is to preserve lives and protect property and we have to do that and we will do that.

“If things don’t improve, and we don’t get the compliance we would expect, then the next stage will be road blocks and it will be stopping people to ask why they are going, where they’re going.

“This is about reasonableness and if people are not reasonable in terms of the journeys and the trips they are taking, they are going to fall foul of the law.

“We will not, at this stage, be setting up road blocks. We will not, at this stage, start to marshal supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.

“But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that.”
He stressed the force is “only a few days away” from that point.

On the clarity of Government guidance on policing the regulations, Mr Adderley said: “The law itself in terms of the five or six points that have come out in terms of the Coronavirus Bill – they are quite simple in terms of their narrative.

“But the interpretation of that is very, very difficult.

“The issue about, what is a necessary item, only go out for necessities – what is a necessity?

“If we’re stopping somebody because they’ve bought a barbecue set or they’ve bought a child’s toy, you could argue that’s not necessary.

“On the other hand, you could argue it absolutely is necessary – because in terms of the mental health and trying to keep people entertained over this period of lockdown, that is very necessary.

“So the nuances and the interpretation is really ambiguous – that’s why I’m saying to officers, use your common sense, use your discretion.

“I think the guidance could be even clearer, but it’s where do you draw the line?”

sorry but that’s ridiculous
 
Police ‘days away’ from checking shopping trolleys as lockdown rules flouted

A police chief has said his force is only “a few days away” from introducing measures such as road blocks and searching shopping trolleys as people continue to flout the coronavirus regulations.

Northamptonshire Police Chief Constable Nick Adderley said a “three-week grace period” is over in the county – and the force will now be issuing fines and arresting people breaking the rules.

He said further measures will also be implemented should people continue to flout the regulations – including “marshalling” supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys.

Mr Adderley said forces are “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” when it comes to policing the new rules, and he added that Government guidance on how to police the rules “could be even clearer”.

Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, he said: “I really need to emphasise the point, this is about saving people’s lives, this is the really serious end of what we do.

“The role of the police is to preserve lives and protect property and we have to do that and we will do that.

“If things don’t improve, and we don’t get the compliance we would expect, then the next stage will be road blocks and it will be stopping people to ask why they are going, where they’re going.

“This is about reasonableness and if people are not reasonable in terms of the journeys and the trips they are taking, they are going to fall foul of the law.

“We will not, at this stage, be setting up road blocks. We will not, at this stage, start to marshal supermarkets and checking the items in baskets and trolleys to see whether it’s a legitimate, necessary item.

“But again, be under no illusion, if people do not heed the warnings and the pleas I’m making today, we will start to do that.”
He stressed the force is “only a few days away” from that point.

On the clarity of Government guidance on policing the regulations, Mr Adderley said: “The law itself in terms of the five or six points that have come out in terms of the Coronavirus Bill – they are quite simple in terms of their narrative.

“But the interpretation of that is very, very difficult.

“The issue about, what is a necessary item, only go out for necessities – what is a necessity?

“If we’re stopping somebody because they’ve bought a barbecue set or they’ve bought a child’s toy, you could argue that’s not necessary.

“On the other hand, you could argue it absolutely is necessary – because in terms of the mental health and trying to keep people entertained over this period of lockdown, that is very necessary.

“So the nuances and the interpretation is really ambiguous – that’s why I’m saying to officers, use your common sense, use your discretion.

“I think the guidance could be even clearer, but it’s where do you draw the line?”

to be clear the bloke effectively argues against himself on the point of necessity by the way .

it seems to protect the nation he’s proposing that police officers, who haven’t been tested , stop people whose offence appears to have been to go to the supermarket and buy something that may or may not be deemed essential then search their bags presumably flouting social distancing and potentially repeat that action multiple times .

In my humble opinion The bloke comes across as an absolute balloon
 
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