Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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More people die in road accidents. It's a ridiculous over reaction.

36,560 people died from road traffic accidents in the US in 2018.

US Hospitals have been told to prepare for 480,000 deaths.

The American Hospital Association, which represents thousands of hospitals and health systems, hosted a webinar in February with its member hospitals and health systems. Business Insider obtained a copy of the slides presented.

The presentation, titled "What healthcare leaders need to know: Preparing for the COVID-19" happened February 26, with representatives from the National Ebola Training and Education Center.

As part of the presentation to hospitals, Dr. James Lawler, a professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center gave his "best guess" estimates of how much the virus might spread in the US.

Lawler's estimates include:


  • 4.8 million hospitalizations associated with the novel coronavirus
  • 96 million cases overall in the US
  • 480,000 deaths
  • Overall, the slide points out that hospitals should prepare for an impact to the system that's 10 times a severe flu season.
 
There have been 4000 deaths. I bet more people have died of 'regular' flu in the same period of time.

Based upon last year's figures, 93 people die from flu per day in the US (on average). Incidentally, the first case in the US was (I believe) the 13th January, so in the 56 days between now and then, flu has killed 5,208 people in the US, and coronavirus 22.
 
There have been 4000 deaths. I bet more people have died of 'regular' flu in the same period of time.

You'd win that bet.

I bet that a lot more people have been exposed to 'regular' flu than have been exposed to COVID19 in the same period of time. We are at the start of this. When this virus has spread to the same extent as regular flu then you'll be able to make a reasonable comparison.

Anyway, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and you're right. However I also hope that no-one approaches this with a complacent attitude or dismisses the warnings that we're getting from healthcare professionals in China, Italy and elsewhere.

 
To stretch your car crash analogy to death (sic), this virus isnt really about deaths. Most who get it will most likely be toast soon anyrate.

But if the 35000 car deaths in the US all happened in the same city on the same day, how do you reckon the hospitals would cope? Thats the real issue.
Yes but there hasn't been 35000 people getting it in the same place at once. The global number of current cases is only thought to be 50,000 at the present time.
 
To stretch your car crash analogy to death (sic), this virus isnt really about deaths. Most who get it will most likely be toast soon anyrate.

But if the 35000 car deaths in the US all happened in the same city on the same day, how do you reckon the hospitals would cope? Thats the real issue.
People really don't think things through do they, definite culture of people thinking they know more than experts... Essentially how the antivax thing started
 
Yes but there hasn't been 35000 people getting it in the same place at once. The global number of current cases is only thought to be 50,000 at the present time.

No, there hasnt. Lets hope it stays that way.

And it was an analogy. If you get the concept of 35000 car crash victims turning up a hospital, you will get what the health people are trying to avoid.
 
You'd win that bet.

I bet that a lot more people have been exposed to 'regular' flu than have been exposed to COVID19 in the same period of time. We are at the start of this. When this virus has spread to the same extent as regular flu then you'll be able to make a reasonable comparison.

Anyway, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and you're right. However I also hope that no-one approaches this with a complacent attitude or dismisses the warnings that we're getting from healthcare professionals in China, Italy and elsewhere.



From October last year, some 3 million people have been affected by flu in Italy. Between Jan 6th and Jan 12th alone, there were 374,000 confirmed cases, or 62,333 per day vs 281 per day for coronavirus.
 
No, there hasnt. Lets hope it stays that way.

And it was an analogy. If you get the concept of 35000 car crash victims turning up a hospital, you will get what the health people are trying to avoid.
Running out of loo roll?
 
People really don't think things through do they, definite culture of people thinking they know more than experts... Essentially how the antivax thing started
It's not just in the area of health, either. Climate change, Brexit economic impact etc. People seem to have become selective over which experts to believe. so you get some who believe the experts when it comes to the impact of Brexit, but don't over the coronavirus. In any area, if the overall expert opinion is telling you something then I'd advise you take that opinion seriously. The old adage of "hope for the best but prepare for the worst" is also pretty good advice in scenarios like this.
 
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