Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[COYBL25]

Any idea what Leicesters of paperwork means ??/

Apparently in means - pieces.

No, me either !

 

[RAFUH]

Sure that's the reason. Think about a fortnight ago the funeral industry were saying they're struggling with the number of deaths, so it doesn't seem beyond possibility that other parts of the 'supply chain' are struggling as well. Suggesting people can't be bothered is the kind of twaddle you'd hear in a red top.

Numbers in general for all of this are off for so many reasons.

Right now only confirmed positive patients are being called COVID deaths (at least in the US)

Deaths that happen in the hospital that never had time to get tested won't be in the totals now. Not enough tests to check postmortem.
Need to find the source again, but I read NYC usually has ~25 at home deaths a day. It has grown to over 200/day. While not all would be COVID I think you could conservatively add 100/day to NYC numbers.

This doesn't include deaths from early days that were assumed flu.

It will be researchers/epidemiologists after this is all over combing through data/charts/death certificates etc that will give us more accurate numbers.

 

[Kenshin]

Sure that's the reason. Think about a fortnight ago the funeral industry were saying they're struggling with the number of deaths, so it doesn't seem beyond possibility that other parts of the 'supply chain' are struggling as well. Suggesting people can't be bothered is the kind of twaddle you'd hear in a red top.

See what I don't get when they release these numbers is the strain on the NHS . It's reported as a general strain everywhere but that isn't the case.

It's almost like the hotspots for the virus are brushed over in favour of a blanket death rate. Yet if 200 died in London for example and 200 spread throughout the rest of the country then the strain is only located on one location essentially.

Same as the number of cases. Are they number of cases in hospital or in general? Two completely different things. If they are hopsital cases then fair enough, that's the strain. It's not ever described like that though.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Numbers in general for all of this are off for so many reasons.

Right now only confirmed positive patients are being called COVID deaths (at least in the US)

Deaths that happen in the hospital that never had time to get tested won't be in the totals now. Not enough tests to check postmortem.
Need to find the source again, but I read NYC usually has ~25 at home deaths a day. It has grown to over 200/day. While not all would be COVID I think you could conservatively add 100/day to NYC numbers.

This doesn't include deaths from early days that were assumed flu.

It will be researchers/epidemiologists after this is all over combing through data/charts/death certificates etc that will give us more accurate numbers.

Might have been this thread?


The numbers in Italy compared to usual, particularly Bergamo, have been heartbreaking

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Why? Because it fits your agenda to say so even though you have posted nothing to back it up. Somewhere in here I did post an article from a peer reviewed journal that concluded SARS-CoV is natural in origin.

This is a virus that primarily uses animals as hosts. It is hardly shocking that it has jumped back to an animal.

Please stop with this until you can post actual data to support your theory or I am going to begin to wonder if your theory has intent that is not acceptable on GOT.

Eh?

I post one thing that is my opinion and you react like im some sort of Russian Bot influencing hearts and minds with some ulterior motive.

@RAFUH I never have come across you posting in the Everton forum and I rarely post in the ale house/affairs forum as I tend to stay away from non football related stuff on a football forum so I aplogise if my post has been taken the wrong way but I think your response was a bit OTT - I havent read up on this thing as much as you obviously therefore you could easily have responded showing me what you mentioned in which fair enough.

I just find it a very erratic virus - to not kill 90 odd year olds but then killing 20 year olds with no conditions to ranging from no symptoms whatsoever to severe viral pneumonia is something I've never seen in any viruses I've heard of (admittedly im not an expert on viruses!).

 

[larrygobfiend]

Hopefully, when things eventually appear to improve, people will view it as a reason for continuing with these conditions for as long as we need to do so because it's working. A premature "job done, let's get back to normal" attitude will only land us back at square one.

This is the worry

 

[BlueToff]

Herd immunity will kill hundreds of thousands in Britain and Millions in the states
I dont think its a realistic option

Don't think it is either.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

See what I don't get when they release these numbers is the strain on the NHS . It's reported as a general strain everywhere but that isn't the case.

It's almost like the hotspots for the virus are brushed over in favour of a blanket death rate. Yet if 200 died in London for example and 200 spread throughout the rest of the country then the strain is only located on one location essentially.

Same as the number of cases. Are they number of cases in hospital or in general? Two completely different things. If they are hopsital cases then fair enough, that's the strain. It's not ever described like that though.

They're reported that way because they provide the media with a simple narrative that requires minimal leg work from the reporter, and it scares people such that they tune in every minute for updates.

 

[BlueToff]

There's people in Britain dying of heart failure (you know, Eddie Large is obviously an exampl) and being counted in the official figures, though.

The numbers are all over the place whichever which way you look at them.

 

[Nymzee]

There's people in Britain dying of heart failure (you know, Eddie Large is obviously an exampl) and being counted in the official figures, though.

The numbers are all over the place whichever which way you look at them.

Heart failure but with no corona?

 

[BlueToff]

Sure that's the reason. Think about a fortnight ago the funeral industry were saying they're struggling with the number of deaths, so it doesn't seem beyond possibility that other parts of the 'supply chain' are struggling as well. Suggesting people can't be bothered is the kind of twaddle you'd hear in a red top.

Italy's figures dropped a few weeks ago for the same reason. I didn't see anyone on here saying they were lazy.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

3802 new cases today, that's a decrease.

 

[roydo]

There's people in Britain dying of heart failure (you know, Eddie Large is obviously an exampl) and being counted in the official figures, though.

The numbers are all over the place whichever which way you look at them.

Thats why I would be really interested in them comparing a daily death rate to the same date last year. Maybe not every day, cos that could have unintended consequences, but in the fullness of time.

 

[BlueToff]

Heart failure but with no corona?

He contracted COVID-19 in hospital after going in because his heart was failing after a longstanding problem. That was according to the Beeb.

So he was tested when he was in the ICU for a completely different reason, tested positive (though he'd shown no symptoms) and will be counted among the figures.

It's all relative like because you know, there's loads who have shown symptoms who haven't been tested so not saying it's some mad conspiracy. It's just the figures are so iffy because of all the varying factors.

 

[Tubey]

"Today's briefing will be held by Dominic Raab."

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